A client treats me like a tool - advice?
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- AdamWintle
What do you do when clients disregard you as a tool rather than respect you more of an expect in your field? (and you have to work with them)
In reply to something which was I explained was badly designed: "Sure Adam, everybody wants to be a designer, can you just build this or not?"
- prophetone0
disperse®
- identity0
do you work for someone or is this a client of your own?
- bored2death0
I hope you talk better than you write.
- Continuity0
Stop allowing yourself to be dis-respected. Walk away.
- AdamWintle0
I'm freelance, but its an employee at the company I have to work with on the project, not the paying client itself
- Josev0
Look for new clients
- detritus0
Are you a designer?
- Yeah web designer and developerAdamWintle
- Ah, well there's your problem.detritus
- hahahahmcmillions
- LOL!MSL
- bingo!
monospaced
- ukit20
If they didn't hire you to give design feedback, why would you expect them to listen?
- They hired me to design and built the site, but someone's already made a startAdamWintle
- ideaist0
How's the $?
- Good, so ideally I want to continue working with themAdamWintle
- Then it looks like you've got a choice to make. Put up with the snark and get paid decently, or don't put up with it and walk.Continuity
- Kill it & bill it Adam... Move on to a client who KNOWS you're an asset and treats you thusly...ideaist
- moldero0
speak up man, dont take no shit. once is all some people need to continue being a cunt.
- < this is your best betdbloc
- < very true, you only need to remind them they can't talk to you like that once. Just once.Hombre_Lobo
- maybe twice, but never thrice!!Hombre_Lobo
- waterhouse0
Sounds like you ought to just take this, rectum be damned.
- DRIFTMONKEY0
Photoshop subliminal dicks into all their shit.
- chrisRG0
Some time ago I've been to an agency where the Producer were acting like that, after 4 days I quit.
The creative director said he was an asshole and didn't understand why was still at the agency.
- panacea0
"Fuck off" works.
- identity0
if you don't accept the money, they can't control you!
-Bill CunninghamI'd suggest you look at it as a job that affords you the freedom to do your own work? Or work for a client (non-profit, friend, etc.) that maybe can't pay you much but gives you more creative freedom. I struggled with this for a long time myself...
- bjladams0
is he disrespecting you, or just asking for a straight answer?
- Hombre_Lobo0
to drop a truthful yet cheesy quote,
Elenor roosevelt -
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.Such a true phrase. Speak up, make sure they know they can't disrespect you.
- or leave and avoid the stress, but its better to learn how to deal with these types for future problems.Hombre_Lobo
- BK0
Shank to the kidneys.
- fyoucher10
Is this other employee a producer? If so, there's prolly other factors involved, like schedule or maybe the current design was already approved by the design director or client. Hopefully you gave reasons as to why it looked like shit and solutions as to what can make it better.
If not, what moldero said, speak up. You're the expert. That's why they hired you, right?
I tell my clients all the time what can be improved and what looks like shit. Most of the times they agree but I'd also try to keep an open mind to things and listen to what they have to say.
Whatever you do, don't go apeshit and go burning bridges over this. State your point to this employee AND the person you report to. If shit fails, you know you've done all you can do.
- This other employee is their "tech guy" who's tried to make a website designAdamWintle
- Yeah, say what you have to say.fyoucher1
- mikotondria30
"Listen, dick, you pay me because I know how to this shit and you don't. I don't work FOR you, I'm DOING work, for you, and you bet your ass if you dick me around doing the job, I'm going to dick you around for more money; my skills are worth more than your money, are we clear ?"