pretentious art
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- loool0
speaking of pretentious art...there is a gif with a performer guy, who has something attached to his dick...can't remember what it was anyway...he has a serious face as long as i can remember...
- Miguex0
I am still "doing the effort" and go to the gallery (because I think it is ok to the artist who made the exhibition) and all I see is a bunch of artists who make some kind of arrogant and egoistic work giving nothing back to me as a visitor...
Some artists will speak to you, some won't. Nothing wrong with that, is just like music, I cringe when I hear MGMT on the radio, but some people love it. Same works for visual art.
If you really want to go deep:
You are saying: " all I see is a bunch of artists who make some kind of arrogant and egoistic work giving nothing back to me as a visitor..."
Perhaps that's the message, arrogance and egocentrism, (blame myspace/ facebook for that) the lack of message could be THE MESSAGE, now ...The important thing is to keep an open mind, maybe research about the show before going too, but consider all this work that you don't like, a way to make the piece that you like more valuable, if you liked everything that was out there, then none of it would stand out to you, everything would be at the same level, rendering everything meaningless (sprinkle that on the pipe too)
- zaq0
- pr20
Words like "pretentious" + anything else are often used by people who wished they could comprehend but they simply have no mental ability to do so, so to save their own ego from crumbling in their own view of how smart the see themselves they start talking about "pretentious (something)."
- how pretentious of you to say that!
:)Miguex - http://fc06.devianta…Miguex
- Truly, the emperors clothes are too fine for the common folk to see.monNom
- how pretentious of you to say that!
- ukit20
100 years ago to become an artist you were expected to master traditional drawing and painting and study for years. Now it is all, for the most part, conceptual and even if there is technical skill involved, the barrier to entry is much lower. Anyone can participate, and naturally because of that you get some good stuff and also a lot of crap.
- this sums it up for me.thumb_screws
- i would agree ecept i'd replace with "good" and "crap" with "interesting to me" and "not interesting to me"scarabin
- +x, -"with"scarabin
- loool0
I don't really think that arts are useless compared to design. Artists are experimental, and they don't answer to anyone for their product - not like designers. I personally think that art goes somewhere and breaks the boundaries, and then design is using and exploiting that new ground...
- 23kon0
grown up "illustrators" that do childlike (no talent) style illustrations
that's a pet hate of mine.maybe it's because i'm just jealous that they can sell that shit and make a living from it.
- it takes talent to draw like a talented child.albums
- while you think they are childish illustrations, they do possess a certain scale and tone not found in children's drawingsalbums
- drawings. ie I think of http://www.themonste…albums
- http://www.qbn.com/t…bjladams
- stepson0
People are getting way too romantic about this. The art establishment aint wall street. There's no round table conspiracy here, just a vague assembly of historians, curators, critics and collectors who's aggregate attention decides who makes it and who doesn't. Generally they get it right, elitism is a good thing, artists are more upwardly mobile than ever and banksy sucks.
- << thisfadein11
- you have shown to know literally NOTHING of modern arts market.
maikel - the fuck are you talking about?stepson
- I'm talking about your rather naive vision of what the art market ismaikel
- This comment has nothing to do with the art market. Read the rest of the thread if you're still struggling.stepson
- gregorywieber0
Interesting conversation. If I could add something, I would just say that there have been more than a few times in my life when I revisited something I once thought was bullshit with new eyes and a different appreciation for it. I guess because of that I've tried to take the approach that if I don't like something, there's a good chance I don't yet understand it. That's clearly not always going to be the case – a lot of stuff IS bullshit. Critical thinking, IMHO, is extremely important. But there's a fine line between critical thinking and cynicism.
- mikotondria30
Art Communicates, Design Works, Craft Beautifies.
They are regions of a venn diagram where they all intersect. All are progressing and developing at all times. One can be a master of one, and have no interest of skill in another, or master all 3; They exist as different languages to describe the space between a creator a subject and a consumer.
- twokids0
Art, as we know it, you know, Picasso and so on...it's dead.
Who communicates through painting anymore? It's a digital world.
We probably don't even know who the artists of today really are.
- UKV0
- heard this before, nice.Hombre_Lobo
- Why's he got such a beef with advertising ? It's just like graffiti about stuff.mikotondria3
- this stinks of bitterness over neving being accepted by the hi-brpw art community - and for good reason >fadein11
- his works are simple visual puns and thus hold the same status as advertising/commerci... art >fadein11
- as opposed to artfadein11
- he worked in advertising; which kind of odd for a phantom anti-establishment sort of a graf legendlittle_kev
- this statement is great.. modern art is a disaster area. fuck it, just make it.antigirl
- faiden, he has been fucking accepted by the 'big fishes' any big modern collection will have a banksymaikel
- and you... antigirl.
c'mon what is the last exhibition you have been to? maybe you are doing it wrongmaikel - wasn't talking about collectors - thats pure investment - was talking about the art establishment - considered lightweight art - which it isfadein11
- lightweight art - which it isfadein11
- Miesfan0
- that is another example of using new materials to express yourself :Dloool
- that guy was very clever. his work is literally a pile of (canned) shit and it sold for millions. fucking visionaire.maikel
- visionary. it's spelled visionary.stepson
- used in a sentence: piero manzoni was a fucking visionary.stepson