Popularity of Vintage
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- reinitialize0
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- inteliboy0
Swatch was interesting --- there was a rejection/rebellion to the fad of digital watches at the time with liquid crystal readouts and beeps. Swatch came along with this very simple watch with clock hands - people lapped it up.
- good one.HijoDMaite
- swatch was also made in switzerland and cheap at the same time... a nice FU to snobsvaxorcist
- HijoDMaite0
Think about this:
With each quantum advance in technology or significant cultural shift a portion of the populace has rejected the purported advances these have offered.
• The Printing Press: The Catholic Inquisition (Stretch the Heretics till their legs pop out!)
• Industrialized Agriculture: the Luddites (is sucks to have your arm severed by a new-fangled thresher!)
• Mass production of shoddy consumer goods: The Arts and Crafts Movement. (Strip the cheap gewgaws out of your life and build this cool cabinet!)
• The Bomb: Beatniks & Hippies. (No Nukes, No Nukes, No Nukes!)
• Hippies: Reagan, National Guard! and the Tea Party.
• Outsourcing Manufacturing to China: Steampunk.Which brings us back to IKEA and mass production.
- abettertomorrow0
Like Josev suggested, any mass-produced good offers a trade off. In some ways, the Ikea product is arguably "better" because it enables more people to have affordable bookcases or couches or whatever it is they sell.
At the same time, the efficiencies of scale and low price come with a trade off in terms of durability, craftsmanship, etc, leading to a certain amount of nostalgia for vintage goods.
- vaxorcist0
I loved my old Marantz 2275 because it sounded soooo warm, so different from a newer technics amp I also had, and so much different from the bose ipod dock...and the knobs were cool, different...
I walked by a bunch of stores with fashion images of models wearing current clothes but sitting on/in old cars of a certain pseudo-history-that-never was.... kind of like the mid-20th-century romantic world of displaced european aristocrats that seems to be what lots of fashion brands are selling... see Banana Republic, etc...
- pr20
Ikea is actually a perfect example as in essence it's meant to look well designed but is made of such inexpensive materials that it's guaranteed not to last. What we are being sold is not the piece of furniture but the appearance of the furniture. The Ikea pretends that one can have it all: good design for very little money, but in the ends you get a good looking piece of crap. Incidentally the old stuff used to be done much more substantially because back in the day people bought items by seeing AND touching them (in the store as opposed based on shinny adds from the internet or magazines) thus to sell they had to create objects that felt substential and in turn were of quality. Of course then it gets more interesting as in Ikea we can touch the object and we can feel that we are dealing with a piece of shit, yet somehow the mesmerizing appearance of how well it fits in their "rooms" allows us to forget?
- Josev0
Maybe the popularity of "vintage" is a backlash against Modernism. I'm a strict modernist from a philosophical standpoint but am beginning to question it.
I thought the comment about Ikea was a ltitle harsh. Some of their goods are not as durable, unfortunately, but the idea is good. Being in my 40s I remember what cheap furniture looked like when I was younger. Ikea is miles beyond that.
- Josev0
^ I think that has little to do with vintage and more to do with good design. There are also well-designed cars being made today. The Aztec is famously known for being designed by committees and marketing teams.
Btw, do you own that? They're mechanical nightmares and have huge problems with rust corrosion.
- Tungsten0
For me it usually comes down to the craftsmanship, and a classier more well thought out design.
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- randommail0
It's a rare but welcomed day when someone actually starts a thought-provoking and interesting thread.
Kudos to Hijo.
- abettertomorrow0
- WE FUCKING LOVE COFFEE!CanHasQBN
- AND MOM PANTS!HijoDMaite
- abettertomorrow0
What do you mean America has no culture? The rest of the world is saturated with American culture.
- It's pop-culture, not historical or traditional culture.CanHasQBN
- things like justin beiber, tv shows, American fast food places opening up all over the world.CanHasQBN
- What's the difference?abettertomorrow
- the difference is, all of that stuff is not old enough to feel historically important... yet.CanHasQBN
- It's all about creating jobs and shoring up the economy.CanHasQBN
- 10100010110101101010...CanHasQBN
- haha Sarah Palin?abettertomorrow
- :)CanHasQBN
- HijoDMaite0
"I also feel that the inclusion of every culture into America has diluted every single one of them into an overall state of ________. "
Torpidity?
- CanHasQBN0
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- HijoDMaite0
Hoping Scarabin has some input..
I think the cultural phenomena known as Steampunk has some relevance in this topic...
As in:
Outsourcing, manufacturing, China, etc..Steampunk. (Crappy, toxic shit sucks!)
- or: "looks pretty cool, let's add some zippers and a steam whistle."monNom
- mikotondria30
overall state of "; DROP TABLE 'qbn_posts'; ?
- They probably won't fall for that one.mikotondria3
- doesn't have sa priveledgesSteveJobs
- CanHasQBN0
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- ..................HijoDMaite
- CantHasQBNSteveJobs
- of nothingnessabettertomorrow
- SteveJobs0
state of overalls