Grids Question
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- OSFA0
you're right on point d_rek! Every book or sample I wanted to show them was a bit too technical or began from an assumption the reader already knows a few basics.... basics these stoodents don't know!
So, I'm trying to create a little step-by-step in layman's terms so that they can understand from the beginning. Do any of you have anything like this I can use as reference or would like to help?
Do it for the kids?
- ukit0
Maybe an easy to understand analogy is the way musicians structure their work.
There's a fundamental structure to music, which can be ignored at times, but musicians are almost always working within in it to some degree. Even if you bang out a punk rock song or something, you're still playing with a constant tempo, otherwise it will be total chaos:)
In the same way, it's hard to escape using a grid when designing. Type out a few lines of copy, you already have a primitive grid of sorts created by the regularity of the repeating lines of text.
The question is, do you just fudge your way around this kind of structure or do you approach it with the precision of a serious musician by accounting for variations in type size, margins, etc? Modern graphic design is built on the idea of precision, so the default is to measure everything out mathematically. It's not the only approach, but it should be learned...
- OSFA0
Don't be too harsh on these kids, i've worked at places where 'creative directors' didn't know/use them... at all....
- pinkfloyd0
Show them the front of a newspaper, and how it uses a grid. A grid adds structure and a foundation to your layout, like the beams give support to a building.
- aanderton0
Get them to draw grids over different designs, magazines, newspapers etc. Draw a few yourself to show them. Discuss the benefits and what not. Get some bad examples too, showing them why the grids useful.
- vaxorcist0
Some web-obsessed people may think "Grid" is just a MediaTemple hosting plan....
- OSFA0
Maybe I should just show them a David Carson piece and blow their minds! Hahaha!
- OSFA0
Cool! thanks guys!! but how do I get them to set one up properly n a document? I'm trying to create a simple step-by-step.
- A bit dated...but
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- sorry OSFA, sorry, i don't know why this not appear
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- A bit dated...but
- pinkfloyd0
Maybe this
- jetSkii0
maybe tic-tac-toe could be a good starting point analogy to start off with when explain grids and compare it to trying to play a game without one. it would help explain an aspect of grid functionality.
- shoto_can0
monNom is right. before learning about grid, wich is a tool in graphic design composition, would be better if they actually understand/apply composition and colour.
- scarabin0
here's an example http://projects.pixeltwins.com/g…
- OSFA0
Thanks guys! You helped improve the future! haha
- Douglas0
just tell them to make the shit line-up.
- Hombre_Lobo_20
fusk that OSFA,
misinform them all, tell them modern design doesnt need grids!!
that way our jobs are safe :)
- Hombre_Lobo_20
show them a newspaper. thats generally a good, real world, abundant example of grids.
- <kingsteven
- But they may groan and ask why you're wasting their time with 20th century crap like newspapers...vaxorcist
- What's a newspaper?luckyorphan
- identity0
im confused, are people suggesting that it takes 4 years to learn composition and color? These are graphic designers. If they wanted to make sweet t-shirts and a skater stickers all day then sure, let's not teach them the fundamentals. I would hope that teachers would find time within 4 YEARS to educate them about composition, color theory, type AND GRID. I use grids in one form or another every-single day at work. do you all not?