InDesign or Illy for final packaging design
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- ntslide
Having a hell of a time convincing MKT director that ID is the best for final output of packaging design. I've been making the dielines in Illustrator and bringing them into ID... they want to keep everything in AI.
Here are my arguments:
- More type control (my biggest prob with AI.)
- Better output for printer
- More control of color/gradients
- More long term edit-ability (changes in future)Any other arguments for or against???
- evanburke0
Those are all valid points.
- VikingKingEleven0
Package design should be done in illy.
It gives the production artist more control over the die lines, scores, ect. Gradients should be set up in photoshop
I would advise against indesign unless the printer specifically asked you to set it up in IND.
Illustator for package design 100% of the design
You can use indesign for labels.
- horton0
ha.. funny... show them this thread from yesterday:
- bjladams0
i ran a printer for 5+ years. i hated it when people sent thru indesign files. there was so much more work for preflight and less 'things' that can go askew.
- akrok0
make a freaking PDF and call it a day. lol.
- horton0
i'd suggest illustrator 100%
- Mr_Right0
I've done many packaging mechanicals over the years, all in illustrator. It's because when I started InDesign wasn't even around yet and Illustrator had great control over pretty much everything. Sounds like points you make against Illustrator above don't make sense because both programs have the same capabilities as far as I can tell (?) Just my 2¢.
Cheers
- I guess I'm a little jaded because when I see someone try to argue against using Illy, what I hear is "I don't know how to use Illy very well."Mr_Right
- Mr_Right0
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- Miguex0
Here are my arguments:
- More type control (my biggest prob with AI.)
- Better output for printer
- More control of color/gradients
- More long term edit-ability (changes in future)----------------------
Maybe it's just me, but all of the above are debatable and depend on the user's skill level.
While I agree with most people here and would use Illustrator for the job, I think both applications would do the job.
Ultimately ask your printer what file he prefers if you are still in doubt.
- Amicus0
'More type control' is probably your best argument, but you can always do the type in ID, create outlines and export to pdf or eps before bringing it back into the Ai File.
I much prefer using InDesign myself, because Illustrator is such a memory kludge if you are using any Raster artwork.
- ntslide0
thanks for all the spirited responses...
1. The packaging is meant for global distribution... This means I've got about 10% of the piece to work with graphically and 90% is type. I've experienced some difficulties with AI and that much copy in languages I don't read. I've also had issues with AI and some of the unicode characters I have to use (problems I don't have in ID).
2. I am not the only person who works on these files. As far as the indesign files go, I've found it much more convenient to include the color information in the packaged file. This way, the team that picks up the packaging in 10-12 months has everything and doesn't call me.
3. All the files are printed in Asia with my suppliers. So I've got a standard PDF spec that I use for the actual final file. This way I can control the color specs with 14+ suppliers and printers. There are also about 150 unique designs/vessels that have to share consistency.
4. Personally, I prefer ID because of the amount of copy involved I'm sure. I have used AI for tons of mockups, but I'm a product engineer so my expertise is much more related to line drawings in AI.I am glad you've got opinions. I appreciate the opportunity to improve the way I do things and this will help.
- monNom0
^ type linked to database/external source is your best argment for indesign. I don't think this is available in Illy.
- Yep. Here.
http://www.worker72a…Miesfan - i don't see that in the link. These plugins lets you fill a text box with database text?monNom
- sorry, here, perhaps
http://forums.adobe.…Miesfan
- Yep. Here.
- bored2death0
How about asking the printer?