materialism
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- inteliboy0
But aren't we part of the problem? Designer/marketing/ad men?
- fair point, some designers sole job is to make things appear desirable and irresistible.Hombre_Lobo
- inteliboy0
It's pretty soul destroying when you grow up with all these grand ideas, knowing you are a "creative" type... then one day realise all you're going to end up doing is help businesses sell their shit. I try to push in other directions, but bills gotta be payed.
Also hate it in certain agencies how the CD's walk around like they are pure king dick creative geniuses, when in reality they spend their day trying to sell nappies and hair products.
First world problems I know.... but it's all part of it right...
- ETM0
So I'm driving my Hummer H1 to the store and I thought, "screw BP!", those jerks polluting the environment and all. So I fulled up for the second time today at the Shell instead.
I looked at my iPhone 3GS and thought "ick, so lame" and I pre-ordered a new iPhone 4. Sure my 3GS looks and works great, but Steve says there is a new one. So I'll just throw it in the drawer with the first 2 iPhones that still work.
So I pull up to the BestBuy and get a new 60" Bravia TV that is 3D capable. Sure I just bought a beautiful 50" 11 months ago, "but it's not 3D dude! I am going to watch the World Cup in 3D and pretend like i know what's going on and act like I always watched soccer (football)!". So I try to load it in the Hummer, but it doesn't fit. Hmmm, guess I need a bigger vehicle. Maybe I shouldn't have the 6 subs and 22 speakers in the back taking up space and waking people up at 3am when I drive by.
When I get in the condo I check in to Facebook and update my status to "I'm wasted bros!! Woooo!!" I log into my bank and see that I've got $50K on my LOC, but that's cool cause my limit is $60k. Good times. Let me see if Apple has put anything else out I can purchase that still work perfectly. I do have to support those Chinese slave factory cities after all, if I don't who will?
- I am glad I am not in advertising. They may not have liked my copy. :)ETM
- dorf0
Everyone is materialistic to some extent.
In the western "world" we see it (a lot) more because people have never had to suffer from poverty/hunger and we take everything for granted - we throw away massive amounts of food each day and buy things that aren't necessary at all (segways, hummers, etc.).
It is also part of our culture. our minds have been manipulated to think that 'unless you have this new gadget/car/etc.' you're inferior to others. (Take a look at any commercial, you'll see this as one of the strategies that marketers employ).
The recent economic pinch (the downturn is yet to come) may have altered a few peoples' attitudes towards buying things, but not a lot. There's also the idea that it may just be an inherent human characteristic to have the newest/best things... I'm not so sure that I agree with that though.
- mikotondria30
Materialism is useful for getting new stuff, but let's be honest, stuff is still pretty archaic - a phone with a 2d display that uses electromagnetic equipment to haul data round the world at tiny bitrates ?.. I want fucking magic stuff with TeraWatts of power, shit that can cure injury and disease, a multi-verse in a box that I, and a billion other people, real or imaginary can enter seamlessly and perfectly and we can create infinitely complex worlds, travel the great spans of space, integrate our memories and intellect and abilities with whatever we can obtain or imagine, in peace, free, forever. And this only scratches the surface of what my real desire for materialism is. We long to master material things because we are material which is just beginning to energetically and holographically implode; our deepest darkest material wish is to transubstantiate matter into image, into boundless energy.
Fuck busting a nut to get a little box so that I can watch brain dead morons playing sport on the bus.
It's crap. I'm going to sleep for 500 years, and you fuckers better have sorted this out by the time I wake up.
- brains0
When did ukit become a troll?
- he really believes in the apple brand and liberal philosophy. its tied into his identity so its not a trolldeathboy
- Hey, I was just asking the question. How is that trolling?ukit
- You may find this thread more to your liking: http://www.qbn.com/t…ukit
- what that chimp rapes a frog is social gold.deathboy
- ali0
For some people, absolutely
- georgesIII0
I believe you're talking about Moses,
and it wasn't objects but false Idols.- but yes, It is more or less the same thinggeorgesIII
- or maybe he was talking about Jesus and materialsm...set
- And it wasn't Moses either. It was God Himself. Moses only read the 10 commandments.
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- sequoia0
"people into camping-outside-a-shop assholes"
case and point
- My Blood I-Phone creates great jobs for people.jacklalane
- huh?sequoia
- ali0
materialism=less freedom
- cerberus0
Jesus also fucked a prostitute.
- <lowimpakt
- he also didn't walk on water.sequoia
- He also had a Father and his Mother was no virgin.cerberus
- ...and, according to the dead sea scrolls, impregnated that same prostitute and fathered 2 children.Sandder
- and said prostitute/mother moved to france as documented in the historically accurate Da Vinci CodeAmicus
- hahaukit
- ukit0
Just seems like its being taken to a new level with these new electronics. Almost like toys for adults.
Maybe we're just entering a new era of consumerism where people feel more and more of an attachment to these things.
- lukus_W0
I agree with ali - materialism definitely reduces freedom. If you rely on something external to gain happiness - that happiness is permanently in a state where it can be taken away and lost.
Marketers learn to craft their images to fit our ideals more closely - we're individually treated more like kings and queens described in fables. Like these characters in children's books, wealth and servants don't bring happiness - they bring boredom and a hunger for something new.
I think the antidote is to create a lifestyle that's engaging. Make your own - build your own - grow your own. Don't throw it out - give it away, reuse it or resell it. Question - and if necessary, reject. In other words, make sure you don't fall into the trap of becoming a passive consumer.
If you're able to do this - no matter which cards you've been dealt -you'll do the best with what you have, and potentially remain happy.
- OP310
materialism is fun
- CALLES0
you mean as in teating women as objects right?