Death of Flash
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- 74LEO0
- Flash will be available for iphone soon.74LEO
- where did you hear that?designbot
- http://labs.adobe.co…74LEO
- Crazy, looks like it's an initiative of Adobe and not Apple which would explain the lack of Flash on the iPad.designbot
- Still no Flash for iphone on web though eh? The app things seems secondary.designbot
- fate0
SteveJobs, loved the retrospective, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and that history.
As an old Flash designer/developer/animator, I do think that performance was really on a lot of developer's minds. I think juggling resources and being mindful of speed was something you always had to struggle with, especially in the late 90's / early 00's, because a lot of consumer computers were about as powerful as the first iPhone during that time.
Not disagreeing entirely with you, but performance was definitely a concern.
- True, the likes of yourself and many others kept these things in mind, but for the few who did, there were many more who didn't unfortunately.SteveJobs
- Friends of Ed book owners, flashkit members, etc. for sure sought efficiency. But I bet they weren't stamping out Lower my bills dancing banner ads either ;)SteveJobs
- nb1
- fues1
- fues0
- section_0141
I haven't had flashed installed on my home computers for at least a year. Instances where I would need it to view something are almost non-existent at this point.
- PaulAllen0
Adobe Flash announces Creative Cloud Storm a creative mobile device that will play Flash files ten times faster than on Android and iPhones. With a already installed user base of 3.4 Million cloud users, and over 99% of Flash players installed in computer systems, the Flash player will not support the new Google logo and will continue to show the old Google logo, in addition to YouTube advertisement in videos which will also be blocked, requiring users to click the logo in order to see the advertisement. Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen says, "You guys want to play with us? We will play the same game!"
www.adobe.com/2015/9/5/creative...
- cannonball19780
^
"Brilliant business move, imho, but he did kill an industry and send well paid programmers to the streets."
That coasts on the whole "create jobs" as a goal fuzzy argument.
- nb0
I really want designers to keep using Flash as long as possible for web ads. I hope they keep pushing it.
It's the next best thing to Ad-Block for iPhone.
- SteveJobs0
^ that pretty much sums it up though i always thought flash did video much better than html5 and you don't need to encode 50 different versions to support all browsers.
but hey whatever! peace out flash
- deathboy0
I think the real question is wether Flash is a necessity on mobile. I think not. Mobile phone as a medium is not very suitable for web browsing as we know with desktops. However flash's GUI allowed for a larger user base to create more motion rich experiences and push websites away from the conformity of top nav left nav and create better all around experiences. (of course some also really shitty experiences) Red interactive site was dope.... Think somewhere in the hype/marketing/sells people began to think of mobile and desktop experiences as being equal regardless of content or usage. Also the use of templates and open source copy and paste stuff can help pad companies bottom lines and they can charge 65k for skinning a 40 dollar template. Who knows maybe flash was like the 60's and the reniassance of the web and now all we have is facebook social sites and wordpress templates. I'd just like people to get back to making well designed websites and experiences without worrying about wether it works on the smallest shittiest phone.
- prophetone0
Was on an IAB dev webinar call the other day and the push now is all HTML5 for online ad units. They even explained with infografi-radical slides how Flash is basically dead, time to let it go, etc.
Their newly-released ad spec docs for 2015 are a clear shot across the bow for swf-lovers. HTML5 everywhere with a scaled sizing approach; HD mobile units; responsive ads TBD.
Mobile device dominance is the nail in the coffin for Flash - and as more devs use HTML5 apps like Google Web Designer as the default go-to builder, which is free.
To the future!