Google vs China
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- calculator0
heavy shit happening on the internets. it's no longer about grot, shopping and lolcats.
- mydo0
Would love to share this with friends here in China. Sadly blogspot has been banned for at least 2 years.
- SlashPeckham0
google has a large slice of the internet pie - they already have enough and i'd love to see a other search products move into this market and create real competition for them... the chinese have a number of indigenous search engines that now have the space to grow...
information flows in a way that more closely resembles oral traditions of pre-history... this will naturally overcome dogma and censorship regardless of who wields political power and influence... google should have stayed to be part of this long term global shift instead of running away... which in my opinion is the easiest thing they could have done... good for them :)
- ItalianStallion0
Google has China now?
- ukit0
Sure, http://www.google.cn/
- ********0
China just wants to moderate the world.
- ukit0
That is interesting
Search for Tiannanmen Square on regular Google, you get an article about the protests and pictures of tanks.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&…
If you search Chinese Google, you just get happy looking tourist pictures.
- ********0
It's quite amazing that a publicly listed company is able to engage in international politics like this.
- it's because they have international politicians********
- it's because they have international politicians
- ukit0
That might not be censorship though, I think you need a China IP to get the censored results.
- ukit0
I was thinking the same thing. It's almost the first example I can think of of a publicly listed company acting benevolently.
- ********0
Yeah, it's good news - BUT, a the existence of any controlling / tyrannical regime is going to affect the bottom line .. so I think humanistic and commercial interests kind of align here.
I other day I heard something about philanthropy forming the surest route to power - I think it might be true.
- mydo0
I don't think google have been trying to get involved in the politics of it all, but it's a little bit tricky when a country bans part of your business to further grow it's home grown companies..(google apps seems to have been blocked for about a month now). In saying that, this probably happens with agriculture in the states?
I also don't think google were actively taking part in the censorship, merely adhering to the laws of the country in which they operate. You would expect the same if the world had varied laws on child porn.
The strangest thing is that the Chinese public know they're being censored, they gossip about the latest riots and they all have access to proxy servers. They know about the human rights issues the government are covering up - in effect, the censorship is just an admission of guilt.
With this is mind, i don't see how censorship can continue indefinitely. The west has pretty much given up trying to censor films because it didn’t make any difference.
It will be a great shame if google close here, because they do a good job, and the local search engines list by who’s bribing them the most. The Chinese people deserve an honest search engine so they can look at porn in peace.
Join me next week, reporting from prison.
- sorry, i am a chinese, i have to report you to the china gov, see you in ching tao prisontypist
- As more of our lives becomes digital - censorship in all areas of our lives becomes far more likely.********
- China are maybe an extreme example, but any privately run site can (and sometimes does) censor.********
- (*sometimes do)********
- are you censoring yourself now?janne76
- haha! The Chinese people deserve an honest search engine that'll serve them honest porn....********
- janne760
hey whatever...
Yahoo is happy enough to turn activists in to their government for ca$h. So all the merrier for those fucking nazi's at Yahoo.
- janne760
oops, i should not have said that ^
no, yahoo you are not nazi's. you do not wear fancy suits and helmets.
yet, by helping the chinese govt turning in those fighting for free speech you are not much more or less equal to any fucking facist collaborator.
Yes, google pick this up:
YAHOO = FACISTS
- delete this guys accountbaseline_shift
- Yaahooooooukit
- no!!!janne76
- lowimpakt0
google suddenly gets some morals?
i wonder what the shareholders think?
although they are probably not overly fussed as they are not the dominant search engine in the chinese market anyway.
- ********0
Share holder think -$11.28 in pre market trading
- mydo0
was the internet the reason censorship in film died out?
does QBN censor? the f w a ?
- ********0
In America, we know how to control people who get out of line. MLK, JFK, RFK, 911. and secretly serve death and cover it up better. We also don't have to break into Google for information, we own them. So therefore, America is better.
- @ ukit- pg1. lame page continuity here. didn't know there was page 2 :P********
- tinfoil hat alert!
*jez kiddin ;)exador1 - haha! tinfoil hat.********
- @ ukit- pg1. lame page continuity here. didn't know there was page 2 :P
- ********0
@mydo "The strangest thing is that the Chinese public know they're being censored, they gossip about the latest riots and they all have access to proxy servers. They know about the human rights issues the government are covering up - in effect, the censorship is just an admission of guilt."
Sometimes I feel that we act like, this censorship is entirely insane. How dare a government withhold any facts from its citizens. As if our government tells us all the news and not keep secrets. However we feel that if our government does keep secrets from us, its for our own protection.
- censorship is only effective if you don't know you're being censored. fact.mydo