website in illustrator?
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- boobs0
Making stuff in Illustrator to use in Flash is a pretty good way to go. I do that all the time. In fact, I hardly ever open Photoshop any more.
- boobs0
But 200 different individual pages that the client will review and sign off on? Insane. Utterly. Completely.
- pressplay0
I once did a page in illustrator because I needed to have all these effects like dropshadow and so on and I figured Illy might be suited better than indesign... me idiot! COMPLETE FUCKUP! DO NOT DO IT! Use Indesign or PS for layout... I ended up with plenty of layers and Illustrator made my computer slow as fuck. do NOT do it!
- new_cpmwww0
First off, there is nothing wrong with this at all. Client is always right. Also, if the client wants to *pay* for you to go though 200 files to makes the logo bigger then so be it. Hire a production artist or some shit. Make 20 files each with 10 artboards, keeps file size down and is a little easier to manage.
I make all my site comps in Illustrator and export to PSD when I have to. You can have multiple artboards and the mix between raster and vector tools is reminiscent of when Fireworks was a great tool.
- vaxorcist0
Everything's fine until you find out that some font metrics in Illustrator are sometimes always just a little bit different from CSS/browsers...
So, if you can, try to design so that there's a bit of padding around text, and try a few pages through the whole process before you commit to a template design that gets approved.
Otherwise, client will expect website to look EXACTLY like illustrator files, which may not always be possible except if you screenshot everything, doing wonders for SEO and such....
- flashbender0
why not build out the actual HTML and show the client screen caps?
Surely if you use a framework, this is easier than 200 illustrator pages
- client may try to enlarge it and wonder why text is pixelated(!)vaxorcist
- ESKEMA0
THIS THREAD IS INSANE!!
- vaxorcist0
actual XHTML is easier than 200 pages of illustrator.... unless they're willing to pay a TON extra for their own private little ineffecient process involving illustrator files and conversion and such.....
My guess is the client will ask for this complicated process, grudgingly pay for it, ask for thousands of changes, continually ask why it's taking so long.... then client asks for a second opinion and hears a web estimate from somebody else.... and client freaks out and complains to many people that you're ripping them off, which may or may not cause you issues with future clients....
- wademd0
Just use Illy CS4, you can export to PSD with layers, and save for web jpgs. You can also have multiple artboards within one file, so saving a multiple page pdf for presentation would be easy. I think its the most versatile.
But in all seriousness, 200 different pages is insane!
- stewart0
design and pre-production are two different things.
one: do the design in an application where you can easily make changes through stylesheets and swatches. only indesign suits this job. imagine changing the grid or font in 200 illustrator files. crazy.
two: when the design is approved, produce photoshop or illustrator files (depends on html or flash website) with not the complete design again, but only the needed template pages. all other little different things like buttons etc in an additional document.
illustrator is an nice application for drawing things, but not for designing a complete book or website.
- mydo0
so.... today i'm thinking of doing the whole layout in flash.
one frame per page, with constant elements in movie clips. (to allow global changes)
> that way i can export every page (for client) as a jpg with just 2 clicks.
> guarantee smooth hand over to development team
> demo animations
> small file size
> Shared library between designersunless anyone wants to scream NOOOO FUUUUUUCCCCKKK DON'T. benefits far outweigh the downfalls of flash as a design tool
- studderine0
photoshop for the web.
- cashface0
what a fucking idiot
- ********0
What the fuck is going on here.
Why are doing a web design in Flash, if it's not going to be a SWF in the end?
I am baffled. Enjoy the next ten months.
* slowly backs out of this trainwreck....
- boobs0
You try to talk him out of it! The rest of us have given up...
- yojason0
use fireworks.
- inkpink0
tell anal client with deep pockets that he's gotta pay for your upgrade to CS4 so that you have support for multipage Illustrator documents.
or build into your cost somehow.
the value of the time it will save you with exports will be hundredfold. one command... 200 image exports numbered nicely... done.
- sublocked0
lol, your client fucking sucks.
- Josev0
Fireworks. Prepare your templates for the archetypes and share the template across frames. You can also create repeating symbols which you'll only have to edit once in the symbol if there's a change. It plays well with Falsh, too. All of your pages could be within one document.
- juhls0
That's nuts.
Good luck.