How come most designers suck?
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- version30
design education is like music education. the process does not make you creative or talented, only gives you the platform to practice and avenues to understand your own decisions in a proper context.
- ********0
fresnobob, not really sure why you're attacked my understanding of post-modern theory when you only ended up agreeing with me.
You said: "that means even if your client supplies you with a shitty logo, you can use your "branding" to create a new context for the logo thus making it an amazing logo."
That's the point I already fucking made. Context matters.
You took exactly what I said and flipped it into the positive (shitty logo + good design = good), instead of my negative (shitty logo + good design = still probably mediocre).
Wow, big revelation there.
Your ideas on relativity are, again, exactly what I stated earlier, when referring to how a design works across different audiences. I said: "Does it make us look foolish to some groups while being spot on for others?"
I'm seriously baffled as to why you even wasted your time, but thanks for agreeing!
- version30
i can hardly say you two are agreeing, regardess if you have similar beliefs, (admitting an existence in god just isn't enough now days... it has to be the right god)
- ********0
Fresnobob said: "...so it really doesn't matter."
Wow, what a lazy, defeatist attitude. That entire last half of your rant was pathetic and full of art-school philosophy.
What you really want to say is: "It's like, the only one who really knows what you know is you, man. So it doesn't matter, just do whatever. Or something." *puff puff* "yeah."
Just went through your portfolio and it definitely reflects that attitude. The design equivalent of a drunken sorority girl. Come back when you've done some real work.
- "We want ze moneys Lebowski"ukit
- Fibonacci. You don't even deserve your username, you hypocritical cunt. Waiting to see your work.fuckinglol_prophet
- ********0
I am still just baffled as to how someone who has done almost no real design work can come in here and tell us what creating relationships in design is *really* all about. The fucking hubris of that cunt is amazing. Yes you, fresnobob.
- neue75_bold0
I should just add that I did agree with many of the points you made gramme, specifically the personal digressions...
further that, I don't practice what I preach...
finally, of course to a degree you should always use an appropriate typeface...
- ********0
was I too harsh on bob?
- cloutier was also known for being hard on others..neue75_bold
- kezza_20
for all you chaps piping on about logos you should read the brand gap...
here is a slide show of some of the points...
Also something else Ive noticed is how fucking poorly read people are around their chosen profession
- too busy drinking that branding koolaid maybe?neue75_bold
- The Little Dog Laughed..neue75_bold
- Dr_Sparkleshine0
Or perhaps, why does suckas dezign?
- ********0
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- fresnobob0
Sorry, I was to busy getting high to respond... anyways, I wasn't trying to prove anything other than that posting other people work just to talk shit about it is fucked up. You got called out on it so many times and didn't even respond I had to do something to get you in the very least annoyed, and it seemed to have worked.
- DrBombay0
Only design, in whatever discipline, has this many back-biting bitches involved. Do your thing and don't worry about what the next guy is doing.
- Imma let you finish DrBombay, but the music industry has the most back-biting bitches of all time. Or mebbe politics.BuddhaHat
- Having a brother who's in a band, I know this to be true.gramme
- It's bad and you know it.DrBombay
- Most people are dicks, just in generalukit
- you're right, I do man :)
just a poor attempt at humour.BuddhaHat
- ukit0
People seem to think they need to follow whatever current of thought is out there, even if by their increased knowledge they are able to follow things that most are not aware of, but most truly original things (and successful artists) come about because to a greater or lesser extent their creators ignored the prevailing wisdom and started from scratch.
What if, instead of apeing the surface style of artists/designers we admire, or absorbing the philosophies of those who have the luxury of publishing books and articles, every designer was expected to develop a coherent philosophy of their own and articulate that philosophy in their work? It seems like a pretty basic concept, but I don't see all that many who even try to do this (not saying I have achieved it by any means), but it seems like something we should all strive for.
- ********0
fresnobob, let's be friends.
- PonyBoy0
you can be my friend if you want, fibby
- tOki0
Can i get a fffound invite please? ™
- tOki0
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