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  • gjd

    If we keep downloading for free won't it make all the £££ hunters fuck off because there is no money in it alone, and force all the people who really REALLY want to get their stuff out take useful jobs to fund their work?

    Everything would instantly get better?

    All hip hop artists would be forced to ACTUAL politics if they want to escape the hood coz they don't have money and fame tempting them in. Simon Cowell would disappear into LA with his millions and Vince Vaughn would never be heard of again. All guitarists could take jobs at guitar factories, all VJs cud design circuit boards for the computer industry, bands could start their own music venue in the no-longer-needed warehouse of NME.

    Isn't this how communism started?

    Or is this all bollocks?

  • drgss0

    A true artist, who has something to say, cannot not to express himself. If you are in it for the money -- fuck you, nothing would please me more to see of 90% of all hiphop music they are feeding us, filtered out that way

    Theres no point in writing, if you have nothing to say
    no point in painting if you have nothing to say
    no point in making music, dancing, even doing sports, if you have nothing to say with it

  • drgss0

    >Isn't this how communism started?

    This is how communism started:

    http://web.mit.edu/comm-forum/fo…
    "(...) But meanwhile Australia has passed a similar law and Europe is almost finished adopting one; so the plan is to leave no place on earth where this information can be made available to people. But the U.S. remains the world leader in trying to stop the public from distributing information that’s been published.The U.S. though is not the first country to make a priority of this. The Soviet Union treated it as very important. There this unauthorized copying and re-distribution was known as Samizdat and to stamp it out, they developed a series of methods: First, guards watching every piece of copying equipment to check what people were copying to prevent forbidden copying. Second, harsh punishments for anyone caught doing forbidden copying. You could sent to Siberia. Third, soliciting informers, asking everyone to rat on their neighbors and co-workers to the information police. Fourth, collective responsibility – You! You’re going to watch that group! If I catch any of them doing forbidden copying, you are going to prison. So watch them hard. And, fifth, propaganda, starting in childhood to convince everyone that only a horrible enemy of the people would ever do this forbidden copying.

    The U.S. is using all of these measures now. First, guards watching copying equipment. Well, in copy stores, they have human guards to check what you copy. But human guards to watch what you copy in your computer would be too expensive; human labor is too expensive. So they have robot guards. That’s the purpose of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. This software goes in your computer; it’s the only way you can access certain data and it stops you from copying.

    There’s a plan now to introduce this software into every hard disk, so that there could be files on your hard disk that you can’t even access except by getting permission from some network server to access the file. And to bypass this software or even tell other people how to bypass it is a crime.

    Second, harsh punishments. A few years ago, if you made copies of something and handed them out to your friends just to be helpful, this was not a crime; it had never been a crime in the U.S. Then they made it a felony, so you could be put in prisons for years for sharing with your neighbor.

    Third, informers. Well, you may have seen the ads on TV, the ads in the Boston subways asking people to rat on their co-workers to the information police, which officially is called the Software Publishers Association.And fourth, collective responsibility. In the U.S., this has been done by conscripting Internet service providers, making them legally responsible for everything their customers post. The only way they can avoid always being held responsible is if they have an invariable procedure to disconnect or remove the information within two weeks after a complaint. Just a few days ago, I heard that a clever protest site criticizing City Bank for some of its nasty policies was disconnected in this way. Nowadays, you don’t even get your day in court; your site just gets unplugged.

    And, finally, propaganda, starting in childhood. That’s what the word “pirate” is used for. If you’ll think back a few years, the term “pirate” was formerly applied to publishers that didn’t pay the author. But now it’s been turned completely around. It’s now applied to members of the public who escape from the control of the publisher. It’s being used to convince people that only a nasty enemy of the people would ever do this forbidden copying. It says that “sharing with your neighbor is the moral equivalent of attacking a ship.” I hope that you don’t agree with that and if you don’t, I hope you will refuse to use the word in that way.

    So the publishers are purchasing laws to give themselves more power. In addition, they’re also extending the length of time the copyright lasts. The U.S. Constitution says that copyright must last for a limited time, but the publishers want copyright to last forever. However, getting a constitutional amendment would be rather difficult, so they found an easier way that achieves the same result. Every 20 years they retroactively extend copyright by 20 years. So the result is, at any given time, copyright nominally lasts for a certain period and any given copyright will nominally expire some day. But that expiration will never be reached because every copyright will be extended by 20 years every 20 years; thus no work will ever go into the public domain again. This has been called “perpetual copyright on the installment plan.”

    The law in 1998 that extended copyright by 20 years is known as the “Mickey Mouse Copyright Extension Act” because one of the main sponsors of this law was Disney. Disney realized that the copyright on Mickey Mouse was going to expire, and they don’t want that to ever happen because they make a lot of money from that copyright.Now the original title of this talk was supposed to be “Copyright and Globalization.” If you look at globalization, what you see is that it’s carried out by a number of policies which are done in the name of economic efficiency or so-called free-trade treaties, which really are designed to give business power over laws and policies. They’re not really about free trade. They’re about a transfer of power: removing the power to decide laws from the citizens of any country who might conceivably consider their own interests and giving that power to businesses who will not consider the interests of those citizens.

    Democracy is the problem in their view, and these treaties are designed to put an end to the problem. For instance, NAFTA actually contains provisions, I believe, allowing companies to sue another government to get rid of a law that they believe is interfering with their profits in the other country. So foreign companies have more power than citizens of the country. "

  • trooperbill0

    its the labels that people object to. if an artist gets paid the same for an album costing £14 one week then in a bargain bin at £1.99 the next the equation is all wrong. i dont have a problem paying the artists, its the massive label profits i hate paying for.

    coda.fm

  • clearThoughts0

    Yeah - this might clean up all the shit music that is out there.

    Like GJD said, a true artist has a real need to express himself and is possibly not making music for the dosh.