Motorcycle Helmet
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- blaw0
You may be misreading what I'm saying. I'm saying, if you think that gear is a magic safety bubble you are fooling yourself.
Ever see a rider that slid across the pavement at 60mph in full gear? I'll bet you saw them in a hospital bed.
Gear can be the deciding factor in whether or not it's a fatal crash, but it doesn't make you a safe rider. Providing your personal opinion is fine, but convincing new riders that risk is eliminated with the right cloths is irresponsible.
- letters20
blaw. I think we're in relative agreement. I didn't note that gear eliminates risk, just helps decrease some – and while the amount may be small, on a motorcycle I say take everything you can get.
And estetic, honestly, I wasn't even considering something one will want to wear – as my working assumption in this conversation about helmets is that we're all wearing one, every time – no sense riding without one.
- i am usually head 2 toe with gear, but I am in the minority for most riders in the area...estetic
- brands like ICON are operating on this assumption, cool flashy gear that dumb dumb kids want to wearestetic
- Yeah, I'm with you there. I see some bad choices on the road – and also don't appreciate the marketing of flashy over safeletters2
- gabe0
blaw, i've slid across pavement at 60+ twice (in full gear) and walked away with minor scratches both times. i jammed up my thumb and had a few scrapes, but otherwise—totally okay. my leathers and helmet took a beating though.
i can't imagine what would have happened to me if i weren't wearing full gear. guys get in 90mph+ crashes and often walk away (when wearing full gear, that is). so, that hospital bed comment is pretty silly ~
- blaw0
Gabe, that's a pretty incredible tale. Glad it worked out well for you. Do you wear full leathers all the time?
I don't think the hospital bed comment is silly at all. How many people in automobile accidents at 60mph get a stay in the hospital? Spilling twice at that speed without injury is pretty amazing, but I don't think most people can assume they'll have the same luck.
Regardless, my point is the difference between exposure and safety. Reducing exposure is common sense to me. Increasing safety comes from practice, riding within your ability, staying aware and reducing risk. Two separate pieces of the pie, in my mind.
- fooler20
went to PIR (Portland International Raceway) to watch a friend race 600cc. Went to a corner and watched a man miss the corner, slide across the grass infield, hit the outer chicane and endo on his way back on the track, flipped over and smacked his head and back on the track then slid 60ft all while doing close to 90+mph.
I looked at my buddy that races and said "he's dead" and he said "nah he's only knocked out". A few minutes later the guy stood up and walked (limped) away.
Helmet and full leather definitely saved this dude.
- gabe0
blaw, to get us on the same page—mine were single bike accidents (meaning no other vehicles were involved). also, i was riding pretty aggressively, one was on the track, the other up in the twisties.
had i been cruising around town my chances wouldn't have been as great; i generally wear boots, gloves, a jacket and full face helmet on the street. i had one other accident where a van tried to make a right turn from the left lane into a gas station at the last second and dove across two lanes and didn't see me. i was doing about 30mph and only had on gloves, a jacket, and full face helmet. managed to walk away from that one unscathed as well.
maybe i've just been lucky. totally agree with you regarding exposure vs safety.
- hellogoodbye0
mine...
- popovich0
looks even better with black visor
- ornj0
It's not SNELL rated but I have one of these,
http://www.fulmerhelmets.com/Pro…Might try and pick up a MOMO Devil.
