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Hmph. Well, I hate running shit through a print broker, as it seems the simplest of questions seem to get lost in translation, but, I'm trying to fix a file handed to me from another designer.
Got the first hard proof back before seeing the file, to realize about 4 different variations of rich black has been used in the INDD, and the PSD's linked in the INDD. Including registration black. I know, awful. Anyway, so I tried to remedy the situation by asking the broker to contact the printer and ask their preferred rich black, as we need a little more saturation than just K100.
After a runaround, the broker said the printer suggested C30(or 40) K100, which I was sort of leaning towards, but at the same time, I feel the jump in color is going to be staggering (as registration black had been used on a handfull of the graphics linked on the box.) So, what direction do you think I should head?
C20 M20 Y20 K100
C30 M0 Y0 K100
or some other magical combination that y'all have tried and tested?
neither, how about
60 40 40 100
I usually use
depends on the paper. Trust the printer to know what ink density works best on a given stock.
I would agree monNom, however, it's coming through the broker, so god knows what they really asked. It's coated stock, and quite the weight, as its a box. Not sure of the details fully, they seem to leave me out of the loop, I know. Weird.. Don't get me started.
I recommen 1/2/3/4
Ok, so finally heard back from the broker, who heard back from the printer who said "a good way to get a nice black out of CMYK is 30C 100K, keep Y and M out of it." Fine, I knew that, but I've seen that done with smaller black text, but I've never seen it where the coverage is mostly black.
This is an indesign file, with quite a few psd links in it, and of course, in PS 30C 100K looks blue tinged. In ID, it's a nice black, which I expected, so I exported and distilled an eps, and, here we are, back to a blue tinged file. It's causing me to be a little bit uneasy about that color setup. Anyone able to put me at ease?
No, unfortunately, this is such a disconnected process, as its going through a broker that they just send us a proof, which we're on a short timeline as is, and will only be able to do one proof, (which takes AGES to come from the printer).
i always go 100 / 55 / 55 / 55 for total black
(as registration black had been used on a handfull of the graphics linked on the box.)
^ may not be a good idea
I'm going through the entire box to use one uniform black, that isn't registration black, (as I wrote before) I just can't get a straight answer on what that black is going to be.
I know a guy named Rich Black. That's all I have to say.
What Rand said (40/20/20/100 is a breakdown I've used many times), but you should still talk to the printer, not broker Jim.
I KNOW! They don't let us however. In their words "Our clients do not usually talk to our printers." It's not my choice to use a broker, this is the last print job at my in-house job, that I'm finishing on friday.
- Well that's retarded. How could you ever expect something to turn out correctly?gramme
- I suppose press checks are out of the question then.gramme
- Yep, definitely assbackwards. And yes, no press checks, they charge us $150 and 3-weeks for a proof too.brains
- what gramme saidPonyBoy