How to create an Angry American
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- Anees0
@Spookytim. This is why it is important not to allow the argument to be framed by established power structures. I can see the opposition that has always been there is being downplayed increasingly ineffectively, thus is becoming more and more noticable.
- Morning_star0
Anees. You need to investigate your statement about American War of Independance. I can't find one set of facts which support it. BTW, Are you American?
FFS, Shouldn't the irregularities of Ws victory in his last election be enough to get people on the streets? The most powerful man in the world is in power through some extremely dubious practices and debateable results and nobody does anything? As i said before Apathy reigns.
- I agree but this begs the question: What are you doing about it?********
- Nothing. I'm not American.Morning_star
- I agree but this begs the question: What are you doing about it?
- Spookytim0
Okay, lets all do something, right now.
* Stands up.
- Anees0
@Morning_star: I think we have similiar viewpoints, I just disagree with your apathy point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ame…
"While there is no way of knowing the actual numbers, historians have estimated that about 15-20% of the population remained loyal to the British Crown; these were known at the time as "Loyalists", "Tories", or "King's men". They were outnumbered by perhaps 2-1 by the patriots;"
That would make the number of people actively rebelling less than half or around half of the population by any stretch of the imagination.
(I'm from the UK)
Hope is a very powerful allie.
- Morning_star0
The Irony.
Well, let us good British try and fix America, again. Although, they didn't like it much last time.
Estimated figure in the side bar on the right hand side at the bottom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ame…Just look at the trouble the relatively minor MP Expenses Scandal has caused in the UK. Swathes of MPs lost their jobs, it was front page news for about a month, all parties were effected and the trust in Government has gone through the floor. All because MPs claimed for stuff that was approved by the expenses office - they had essentially done nothing wrong but public and media pressure were victorious. Again, could or would this have ever happened in the US?
If it's not apathy, waht is it?
- Anees0
Haha, yes there is some irony there. luckily I am not directly involved.
Re: Expenses Scandal. Again, that argument is dictated by a superimposed framework, a distraction that concerned (sincere) followers of mainstream media. while the real theft is still occuring behind the scences where fiat currencies are being printed at full speed and passed on to off-shore banks at tax payers expenses. We are then are charged to access these currencies at interest.
- Morning_star0
Indeed. But my point was that in the UK we have our mechanisms of power under scrutiny. Whilst I take your point about media/political distraction we have the right (and excercise it frequently) to question and effect these mechanisms.
The US seem hell-bent on looking the other way when they suspect or find corruption in their own mechanisms of power. If that's not apathetic then i don't know what is.