Collaborating with other firms

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  • Machuse

    I will be working with another larger firm to produce work for a fortune 40 company.

    In the industry how are these usually worked out, ie agency has firm b actually produce the work.
    I'm concerned my firm inst going to get a fair share of recognition - do i need to strongarm and ask to see corespondances with the client? or brand everything i give to the agency?

    Neither one of our firms have done much of this before, they are well established with the client, but im coming on board to bring new offerings (web and application develpment)

  • mydo0

    This will depend on your agreement.
    We built the Converse site for China and were not allowed to show it in our portfolio. So charge accordingly.

  • Machuse0

    well im not so much worried about using the work in my portfolio as im sure it will be NDA's to oblivion.
    Im more worried about the client knowing our firm produced the work and not allowing the firm hiring us to get all the credit.

  • Machuse0

    in addition, how would you negotiate prices going back to the original client. If i charge x i dont want agency adding y ontop and getting z, they are the only ones talking to the client at this capacity, and the price is more about what the company is willing to spend than an actual set price.

  • BenWeeks0

    Say to the client you're offering strategic oversight and managing the project. Be up front with your client. You're leveraging your creative network. You could try to do a confidentiality agreement, but legally it should have limits. You could also-if you're really worried have the client and asignee sign in the contract a clause which says you get a % of any future work assigned to them. Might be stingy. If you have good processes and trust with the client, they'll stick with you. If you don't-then trying to hold on to the client is not the underlying problem. Maybe that helps? Or confuses? :)

  • tOki0

    Well if the big company likes it then next time they might go direct, which could work well for you..but at the risk of pissing off the other agency.

    Generally speaking the middle party will use and abuse both parties as a means to an end, so if you can it's better to be independent. Afterall, you are doing the work and deserve to be recognised for it.

  • NONEIS0

    So, your primary concern here is for the company hiring you?, and not the place that you work? Why do you want the firm hiring you to get all of the credit, unless I am misreading you...

    You should probably be charging more than normal, chances are good that the company hiring you is also going home with a larger chunk of change when it's said and done (^ tOki explains this above).