Avoid the 13" MacBook Pro
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- ninjasavant
http://mantia.me/blog/macbook-pr…
Summary:
The new 13" MBP only sports a 6-bit display as opposed to the 8-bit display of the rest of the line. This means that it can only display thousands of colors as opposed to millions. It fakes millions by way of dithering.Article:
A few weeks ago, when Apple announced the new 13″ MacBook Pro, my ears perked up. (I may be an Apple fanboy, but I paid attention a little bit more this time.) Of course, they always advertise “gorgeous” displays. With the new MacBook Pro lineup, they boasted a wider color gamut. Okay...Later that week, I walked into the St. Louis Galleria Apple Store, checked it out. Seemed fine to me. I needed a replacement for my 17″ MacBook Pro, you see. As Travis likes to call it, it’s an aircraft carrier. I hated lugging the thing around, especially when the weight was on my back or shoulders. I wanted a more portable machine, but I demanded the same specs. I was perfectly happy to find nearly every spec in the high-end 13″ Pro was matched (or better) to my year old 17″ Pro. The hot sexy unibody was calling my name.
I asked the sales rep if it was a 6bit or 8bit display. They didn’t know. (Nobody seems to know, Apple doesn’t give out this information to the sales reps, geniuses, tech support, nobody.) They told me it was upgraded from the 13″ MacBook’s screen, so they assumed it was better, it had a “wider color gamut” so... it must have been?
I fired up Twitterrific on my iPhone, and while I was in the Apple Store, tweeted about selling my 17″ Pro for less than half my purchase price. (I had tried selling it before, but this price was just right.) It sold within a day, and I went back to the Apple Store as soon as it did, and I made my purchase. Then I remembered I’d need an adapter for my 30″ Apple Cinema Display. I relayed the info to a sales rep, and they rang me up for the MacBook Pro and the adapter.
I went back home. Used it for a bit, no issues. It was only until I arrived back in North Carolina that I noticed both of my problems: my MacBook Pro had a less-than-stellar display and the adapter the sales rep sold me was not for my 30″ display. The MacBook Pro 13″ has a 6bit display. That means it cannot really display millions of color. Yes, on Apple’s website it claims it can “support millions of colors,” but what they don’t tell you is that it does so through a process called “dithering.” Any designer knows what that means. Anyone else: it means the screen will display colors closely in a pattern in order to give you the perception of a blended color. The display adapter is another story. The 30″ display requires a Dual-DVI Adapter, not a regular old DVI adapter. You see, when I was at the store, not only did I tell them I had a 30″ ACD, but I also asked “Isn’t that thing like $100?” They said, “Nope, it’s only $30!” I thought they lowered the price or something, but they sold me the wrong one. So instead I was stuck with an adapter that output 1280×800 on my 30″ display instead of 2560×1600. Horrible.
I called Apple Support about both of these issues. I first discussed my displeasure of using the “new” MacBook Pro display. I complained that it was a Pro machine, and should be treated as such. There are 8bit portable displays, you know, and Apple should be a company that uses them, especially when they are generally known for great quality products, but instead, they went with the cheaper option, a lower bit display. He couldn’t verify this information, because Apple doesn’t give their Support team this info. Basically, the first tier of Apple Support only has as much information as you can find on your own at Apple’s website. Naturally, he asks me if I’m sure I have my colors set to millions. Yeah, these guys assume I’m an idiot. So of course, after a few minutes, he transfers me to the second tier. Generally this is where I get my answer, but I even stumped these guys. They don’t have the information either. They’ll have to contact Apple Engineering to see if they’ve got what I’m looking for.
A few days later, I get a phone call from Apple, letting me know that Apple Engineering has declined to disclose this information. Excuse me? Declined? I just purchased your product and all I want is for you to verify the specs that you advertise. It should not be that difficult to do. But apparently, it is. A few years ago, a few individuals started a class-action lawsuit against Apple for advertising millions of colors with their 6bit displays. Unfortunately, they needed a “class” for a class-action lawsuit, and not enough people cared/noticed. The matter was settled out of court.
They did offer to send me a replacement Dual-DVI adapter, which is great. Free of charge. Just what I wanted. But it’s just serving as a distraction. I want a better portable display.
I relayed the importance of this information and why Engineering should reconsider. Again, a few days later, they refuse. I ask if there’s anyone above the second tier of customer service. There is, it’s called Customer Relations. They’re corporate, apparently. I ask to speak to one of these individuals to find that they won’t budge at all. I made the argument that as a customer, I should be able to get this information no problem. They offered to give me a full refund of my purchase. I suppose this would be fine, if I could go to another Apple retail store and purchase a portable machine of this size that had an 8bit screen. The problem lies here that Apple is the only producer of computers that run OS X (I don’t want any arguments here, okay?) and they do not offer a 13″ MacBook Pro with an 8bit screen. Good information to know would be if the 15″ or 17″ have an 8bit screen. I might consider upgrading if I knew, but they won’t give me the information I require. I ask if there’s some way I can get it. The Consumer Relations woman tells me that “the documents you have asked for are not able to be released to you.” “They are internal documents, it’s not something that’s available to the public. We are not escalating the situation.” “We are not able to provide this information to you. You’ve exhausted all your resources at this point.”
What?! I’ve exhausted all my resources? Wow. I ask what more I can do. She suggests writing a letter. A real letter, like pen and paper. I ask for the address to send it to, of course it’s “One Infinite Loop—” “Cupertino, California. Yes, I know. Thanks.”
A few minutes later, I wonder if I can get a hold of an operator at the Cupertino campus. Maybe I can speak to an employee there that may be able to assist me in a way Apple Support/ Customer Relations is not. The operator I get transfers me to Support three times before I tell her that I need to speak to someone regarding an issue not related to technical support. She asks what it is. I briefly explain, and she responds similarly, to write a letter. “One Infinite Loop—” “Cupertino, California. Yes, I know. Whom should I direct attention to?” “Steve Jobs, he’s the CEO.” My thoughts are, “Uh huh, and he’s gonna read my letter?” I mean, doesn’t Steve Jobs have better things to do than to read my letter? Surely he does. So he doesn’t read my letter, other employees do. What many say to be the highest level of customer service. But wait, wasn’t I just talking with the highest level of customer service? Customer Relations, on the phone. Yes.
I called Apple Support again, with my case ID. With that, I am immediately taken to Customer Relations. I get another individual. I inform him that I was told that I should write a letter to have my complaint heard, and he assures me that is the best option. I ask how I can be assured that someone will read it, much less respond. I mean, really, I’ve sent to emails to Steve Jobs regarding other products, and neither have received a response, so how can I really expect one at this point? Also, if Customer Relations is the highest level I can go, who is reading my mail? This guy? He tells me no, that it’s another group. I asked him what the group is called, and he asks back, “Why?” Why?! I’ll tell you why, I’ve been going back and forth with Apple trying to get this information, so I’m writing down everything I can, so the name of this group would help. He sidetracks and doesn’t answer the question. He told me that he’s the highest level of customer service I can talk to on the phone.
Do these people who read mail not interact with customers by phone? He says they may, but they don’t have an incoming line. So what I’m supposed to do is write a letter, hope it will be read, and hope for a response. Yeah, right.
You might be sitting there thinking why I am possibly caring this much. Well, let me put this into perspective for you. You already know I’m a designer, so you know how important color is to me. A 8bit screen such as my 30″ Apple Cinema Display is able to achieve 16.7 million colors. A 6bit MacBook Pro screen? 262,144 thousand colors. That’s roughly 60 times less colors. That means for all of those colors it can’t display, it blends with nearby pixels. This is just embarrassing and unacceptable.
I did look up the model number, for those of you who are curious. The one inside my machine is a LP133WX3-TLA1, which is a LG Philips display. The product guide on their site does not have this model number, but all of the other displays they offer for portable machines are 6bit.
In a machine labeled a “MacBook Pro,” you’d think they’d cater to, well I don’t know, professionals?
- sublocked0
Ace writeup. Burn the place down. I'll be the getaway driver.
- im heading that direction in about an hour. ill be the one wearing a macworld 1993 shirt . . .ninjasavant
- let's do this!sublocked
- jay_jay0
:( that sucks, I wanted one of those, thanks for the info.
- sublocked0
i'm still getting one this month...figure i'll be designing on an external anyhow. photoshop fucking sucks on a 13"
- Josev0
I have one and I love it. I use an external monitor so the laptop screen isn't an issue. It's a lot of computer for not a lot of money. I've stopped using my desktop computer (I bought the laptop for travel only).
- raf0
Apple applies a variation of the the pareto principle when it comes to customers' needs: satisfy 80% regulars, screw the remaining 20% power users.
They have a write-up on in it.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Par…
http://developer.apple.com/docum…
- raf0
I have the older 13" - I throw cuss words out when I'm forced to do edits on it. It's hooked up to the LCD 99% of the time.
- xcreonx0
I don't mean to be a dick but this is why you research before you buy. If you would you would have found that all of Apples notebooks and most notebooks on the market use 6bit screens which dither to reach millions of colors. Apples site says it "supports millions of colors". This is misleading yes, but it is not necessarily a lie. A simple google search on LCD laptop screens brings up a ton of info.
And honestly, what serious designer, video or film maker, photographer or otherwise uses a 13" laptop monitor to check colors???? I mean get a real monitor and hook it up. You won't see the big boys hunched over their 13" screens. Come on.
- ismith0
Isn't it like this on all MBPros? My 17" certainly doesn't do 16.7 million colors, there's pretty obvious dithering. Do the newer bigger ones use full-color panels for sure?
- Point50
I've seen mantia ranting about this on Twitter over the last couple weeks... I see he's compiled all his thoughts into one now.
may the force be with him.
- MisterMonk0
wtf HOW READ THESE LONG PARAGRAPHS OF CRAP LOL
I GAVE UP AFTER THE FIRST SENTENCE BORING! PLUS I SMOKE UP BASHING HERE MINE ME!
- 3030
I am planning to get a mac, but don't know which one. I have 20" screen (dell 2005wfp) and I was thinking about mac mini or mbp (13 or 15). The thing is that I want to run OS X and XP pro (for Visual Studio). For sure that will be mac from refurb shop.
- studderine0
ever try to calibrate a monitor on a mac laptop? guess what happens in an hour or two? calibrate it again and the levels are all out of wack. its a fucking laptop.
- digdre0
it's on digg frontpage.
i guess that steve will read it, no? haha
- hargbine0
somewhere in the middle of that story you wrote: "They offered to give me a full refund of my purchase."
That's awesome. End the story there and then edit the rest to say:
"Let it be known that the 13" has 6-bit color screens."- otherwise post in this thread: http://www.qbn.com/t…hargbine
- digdre0
^ LOL,
good point there :D
- MSL0
Pretty much all notebooks, laptops etc will use a 6 bit display. There are virtually no TN panels that will display in true 8 bit (or none in a notebook/laptop anyway).
I do think it is wrong of Apple to claim millions of colours when in fact it will only display 260 odd thousand. But to claim that the MPB is to be avoided because it has a 6 bit display like every other laptop is plain stupidity.
- raf0
A lot of designers who use 20 inch aluminum iMac don't know it has a crappy TN panel, unlike its white plastic predecessor ot the 24 inch model.
- felizfeliz0
if you display colour number 734,746 and it's next to colour number 734,745 of the "millions of colours" that you wish to see - can you tell the freaking difference???!?
if you design for print, then you'll be use pantones etc - so it doesn't how it looks on screen, it's the print that's important. if you design for web, then most other people will be seeing it on crappy pc's and crappy monitors. so you don't need to worry. and the image will likely be compressed.
so unless you're doing scientific research into colours displayed on computer monitors - i fail to see why it's so important...
- it doesn't "matter" how... missed a word there...felizfeliz
- nikdaum0
I don't think any laptop has 8bit color panels except some 17in models. The dithering is pretty bad on my 15in Macbook pro, especially on BW photos, but what can you do...
- itsmitch0
Apple has a right to use whatever display they'd like. The only problem here is the advertising of "millions of colors" instead of just being honest about it. If you were mislead by their advertising, take some screenshots and any proof you may have and file a report with the FTC:
https://www.FTCComplaintAssistan…