Honduras Coup d'état
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- braaad0
My wife put up a website to help report the latest news, mostly via SMS until the Honduran government shut that off too:
http://hablahonduras.com/
- TheBlueOne0
Did you start this thread with the words "dictatures"? Seriously? Dictatures? Is that even a word?
- I'm a french speaker, so sometimes I write french words without knowing, google it ;)GeorgesII
- Damn people trying to classy themselves up on the internets dropping fancy French words.TheBlueOne
- touché eheheGeorgesII
- it actually means the "office or term of a dictator". Our french friend was on to something.marychain
- GeorgesII0
A good explanation about the situation, if you want to learn more
http://hondurans4democracy.blogs…
- TheBlueOne0
I don't know enough about Honduras to form an educated opinion. Obviously the guy was going for some kind of popularist power grab, but the forces behind the army seem equally shady. I've read some of the rhetoric supporting the coup and I've seem some standard phrases dropped like "Zelaya stabbed the Honduran people in the back..." and the "silent majority of Honduras offers you our support and personal testimonies". Hmmm. Boilerplate right wing, wealthy elite media language anywhere you see it...but the situation looks quite complex.
- raf0
Huh, I see you're supporting the cause via a popular microblogging service TBO, are you getting a blue overlay for the avatar too?
You can always say it's for yourself :)
- Hah, no. Can only virtually follow one horse race at a time.TheBlueOne
- bliznutty0
everything else is propoganda.. my honduran friend will tell you personally
- ernexbcn0
The ousted president of Honduras tried to violate the constitution, the supreme court ruled that the elections he was pushing were illegal and ordered the armed forces (in charge of securing the elections) to not do anything. He insisted on it and that provoked a decision by the supreme court to oust him. He signed a resignation and was taken out of the country to avoid violence.
This guy Zelaya is just another Chavez in the making, just because you win elections doesn't make your acts as a president democratic.
- janne760
WTF?
Billy Mays is DEAD?
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
- benfal990
THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN.
THE END OF CAPITALISM IS COMING.
THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN.
- TheBlueOne0
'shopped
http://narcosphere.narconews.com…
And that's a pro-coup newspaper, oddly enough run by the wealthy elite in the country.
It's typically American to run in their and want to determine who the "good" and "bad" guys are and then take the appropriate side, but how one can defend a power grab backed by elites using the military ousting an elected president who was trying to get consensus on whether or not there were enough people in support of changing the existing constitution to allow him to run again as "democracy" is a bit delusional.
As I sit here in NYC, why, Mayor Bloomberg is seeking a legal means to determine if he can seek re-election for another term although it's currently against the law. I guess we New Yorkers should storm Gracie Mansion and kick Bloomberg out for even contemplating such a thing, that undemocratic thug.
In the end, not saying that Jose Manuel Zelaya is a net "good" or "bad" guy, but he doesn't seem to have done anything that warranted his ouster by violent, undemocratic means. Yet. If he went on to maintain the presidency after his term, or rigged it so he could do so, then sure...but as far as I read it he was, like Bloomberg, seeking a referendum of the potential legitimacy/popularity of such a constitutional change.
- uh...where to begin...where to begin?marychain
- This situation has really opened my eyes to media coverage in general. As the husband of a honduran with LOTS of family there....marychain
- there. I can say that Zelaya has done PLENTY...PLENTY. He's a thief, a drug traffiker, a power grabbing extreme leftist, a liarmarychain
- no one wants him to extend his term. It's an unconstitutional move...illegal. The people protest the coup are being bribed in one way or another.marychain
- bribed in one way or another.
The Coup was NON VIOLENT!
To call it a violent coup is BEYOND hyperbole and borders on ridiculous.marychain - borders on ridiculous. The Bloomberg analogy is false. Bloomberg is not a criminal seeking to hijack an entire nation...marychain
- nation to an idealogical extreme...a dictatorship preying on the poor. It's fairly obvious Honduras would rather settle for 6 months of depression and uncertainty instead of casting itself under the wheels of a communist dictatorshipmarychain
- 6 months of depression and uncertainty instead of casting itself under the wheels of a communist dictatorshipmarychain
- We are not talking about U.S politics. Zeyala is not socially motivated..he's a powergrabbermarychain
- sorry...I'm not yelling at you. I just hate that the rest of the world sees this as..oh those violent, silly hispanics. The military has not tried to keep power. This is really a case of the people standing up and refusing the hijacking of their countrymarychain
- The military has made absolutely not move to keep power. This really is a simple case ofmarychain
- the people standing up and refusing to let their country be hijacked. Obama MUST see this...must be why he hasn't made a direct movemarychain
- made a direct move. But the fact that he has to play games with these tyrants is very disturbing.marychain