Dealing with bad art direction.
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- baseline_shift0
@ jimbo: Well its not so much better or worse. I'm just curious if there are any techniques people use to help persuade art directors to see the value/validity of your design.
- dyspl0
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"Now, I generally trust the opinion of the father, although he tends to steer me toward dated looks. (He still thinks that David Carson, layered type look is cutting edge.)"I'm sure that will be TEH THING in a few month. maybe i'm wrong, but I have this feeling....
- tcmmct0
"preparing my resume/folio"
Do that and bide your time.
- jimbojones0
Do a layout YOU really like, put your heart into it. If they don't like it: you won't be happy there. Regardless if your or their stuff is better.
- MrPierre0
Go to Vegas!
- Mal0
- beat me to itjimbojones
- haha, thanks!baseline_shift
- there is a side effect if you choose this way. you will live with only men later, in a small space...akrokdesign
- some will call you bitch and hit on you. lol.akrokdesign
- i thought you were telling me to use it on myself. But thats another valid route. Then ill be asking you how to convince my cellmate to quit raping me.baseline_shift
- cellmate to quit the raping.
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- baseline_shift
I work at a studio with 2 other people. The owner/principle/creative director (a 65 year old guy) and his son, who is my art director.
Now, I generally trust the opinion of the father, although he tends to steer me toward dated looks. (He still thinks that David Carson, layered type look is cutting edge.)
His son, however, I don't trust. He never had to climb ranks, or prove himself as a designer. In fact, the job he had before he became an art director at his fathers studio was to crank out clipping paths for a toy website. He has a 4 year associates degree from a crap school.
Now, I know a lot of design is subjective (which sucks with a father-son duo, as they tend to think the same, and side with each other) but a lot of times its simple functionality things. For example, the son keeps telling me to use en-dashes where i should be using em's.
Whenever I see potential issues, I try to phrase my concern in the form of a question. ie: "Do you think this type might get hard to read?" or "Have you checked out this typography article on proper hyphenation?" so as not to be insolent, or a cocky young designer.
Other than saving versions of designs for my folio that haven't been directed into the ground, and preparing my resume/folio to find a new gig, what else can be done?
Anyone have any sage advice? Anyone Dealt with this kinda thing before? Funny stories? Call me a cunt? Anyhow, would love to hear some thoughts.