Dealing with bad art direction.
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- uberdesigner0
ask the obn guys to change your nic/erase this thread
- think its that bad? think someone will try and sabotage my shit? how do i go about this?baseline_shift
- blaw0
Suart, when you've finished playing I'll need to see you in my office. Thanks.
- rockdog0
grab your things and move on...
there's no way to deal with this kind of a situation - you will loose.and it seems to me, that from a design point of you, you will not learn anything.
so just go...
- Mal0
- beat me to itjimbojones
- haha, thanks!baseline_shift
- there is a side effect if you choose this way. you will live with only men later, in a small space...akrokdesign
- some will call you bitch and hit on you. lol.akrokdesign
- i thought you were telling me to use it on myself. But thats another valid route. Then ill be asking you how to convince my cellmate to quit raping me.baseline_shift
- cellmate to quit the raping.
baseline_shift
- MrPierre0
Go to Vegas!
- jimbojones0
Do a layout YOU really like, put your heart into it. If they don't like it: you won't be happy there. Regardless if your or their stuff is better.
- tcmmct0
"preparing my resume/folio"
Do that and bide your time.
- dyspl0
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"Now, I generally trust the opinion of the father, although he tends to steer me toward dated looks. (He still thinks that David Carson, layered type look is cutting edge.)"I'm sure that will be TEH THING in a few month. maybe i'm wrong, but I have this feeling....
- baseline_shift0
@ jimbo: Well its not so much better or worse. I'm just curious if there are any techniques people use to help persuade art directors to see the value/validity of your design.
- Scotch_Roman0
This is the sort of innocent post I wrote several months ago, which partially led to my demise. Don't publicize this sort of thing here (well, it's too late now, but for the future...). You're better off emailing a handful of trusted people for advice.
- yeah, you are prob right. :-/.
They dont know bout the quality balloon network, though.baseline_shift - i didnt even know what qbn stands for!jimbojones
- haha, i dont think its that!baseline_shift
- oh.jimbojones
- This guy is right. QBN has a pretty big footprint. Watch what you say.bort
- yeah, you are prob right. :-/.
- attentionspan0
Yes i think everyone has tried it out before, maybe not as bad as in your father/son situation.
Focus on the money, do the work as fast as you can, keep them happy, then just get out whenever you can. If they know less then you(and he is an AD) then you are probably in the wrong place.
- jimbojones0
the bad thing is you can't persuade a designer to like your design work. you can brainwash a client, but a designer has too much bullshit in his head, yours won't go there. if they say: freight display is a boring font, what can you say?
- 'Its appropriate for this design. It has the right personality for this client.' i dunno.baseline_shift
- "no, it isn't. no it hasn't. how about georgia?" now what?jimbojones
- "F U CANDY!"baseline_shift
- see? not happy.jimbojones
- georgia is designed for screen use and won't set properly in print. As a result of this, the font is too open, and with too low contrast to work in its correct environmentkelpie
- contrsst to work.kelpie
- "wat? fuck you, this my company"kelpie
- marcostill0
Is his name Steve?
- Please, be kind. I dont wanna get too invloved.baseline_shift
- And no, ive never heard of that company.baseline_shift
- baseline_shift0
^^^^^
for the record. NO. IT ISNT.
- CALLES0
that sucks... family and then you
- yup. Nepotism FTL. I never thought it would be THIS BAD going in though.baseline_shift
- hans_glib0
This is all part of a designer's career path - being told to do things he/she doesn't agree with by seniors. There are two ways to go... swallow your pride and get on with it, making a mental note not to behave in the same way when YOU'RE the senior telling the junior to do it the way you like, or do what I did and leave and set up your own firm, making a mental note not to behave in the same way when YOU'RE the senior telling the junior to do it the way you like
- btw, I hate em dashes as well. Sorryhans_glib
- haha. yeah. depends on the face.baseline_shift
- CALLES0
yeah keep your chin up and keep looking somewhere else
- doesnotexist0
there's nothing you can really do besides put up with it. build up your portfolio and start looking for a new job.
- jimbojones0
but do you need the money? then don't quit, current job market isn't great methinks
- kld0
cun...