Sydney became LAME
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- autoflavour0
also i am not sure there is much the government can really do.. at the end of the day, even if the councils dedicated large walls for public art around the city, the rush of bombing lines or getting up where you are not supposed to would mean most would still do it.
well, they would use both.
perhaps akin more to skateboarding. reclamation of public space, regardless of what you are told to do.
- *yawn no new ideas or opinions your a sheep thats takes your cues from elsewhereStylus
- your ideas are so forth coming there styus.. they are just overwhelmingautoflavour
- Stylus0
bah I'm autoflavour bah I like Graffiti bah I like robots bah I'm so creative
- bahStylus
- thats a lot of bah.
autoflavour - well, compared to your fantastic website shitlove.com.. at least i put myself out there.autoflavour
- MrT0
So did Sydney become lame?
- airey0
to plash - totally agree
but
a single tag, not attached to actual artwork, how is that art? or in fact a statement? how is it 'showing the man' if it's only a single, average looking tag?
just asking. i just can't see how banksy or the million of talented graf artists that are around get compared to some arse-clown that likes to write their name the same way over and over.
- do you really think that talented graf artists dont tag? you live in a bubbleautoflavour
- not to keep using Banksy as an example; but he does it too ...plash
- tOki0
I had my gate tagged by some fucking hood rat the other day. Not cool.
If you don't own it, don't create "art" on it...pretty simple.
if you don't own anything, get a fucking job.
- just makes autoflavour wanna tag your gate more..apparentlybabaganush
- cannonball0
"accepting that tagging is inextricably linked part of the culture"
no.
- cannonball0
If you want to put a picture on a wall, you have to ask it's owner. Otherwise you are an asshole.
Regardless of how much of an artist you might think you are.
- autoflavour0
i dont really much else to say. clearly a lot of you have issues with illegal art so continuing to argue is a mute point. tagging is graffiti is stencils is paste ups is stickers is rollers from the roof tops. its all about getting out there. now if its a word or a icon or image, its the same thing.
as for claims of being a sheep, big words coming from someone who doesnt even have any of their work connected to their profile. its easy to take shots from the shadows isnt it Stylus.. without actually contributing anything to the discussion.
im not going to ask the owner of every pole, door or bus i hit with a sticker. if that makes me an asshole.. then pucker up while i bend over.
- It's a nice day autoflavour. Shouldn't you be outside playing with your skateboard?moth
- stem0
I just don't get tagging...
20 odd years ago, maybe so, you could have argue.
I just think in todays society, (even in Australia!!!) there is a decent enough education system that enables young people with an interest in art/graphics to express themselves in more helpful ways.
Doing work on your own walls or your mates walls, get it photographed, get it on your website, get some off-shoot projects going, get a legitimate business going. Then maybe you won't feel so fucked off with everything that you feel that you have to vandalize other peoples property.
I don't buy the "Reclaiming Public Space" thing either...
Public space is taxpayers money, which makes it a democratic space (of sorts). So stop imposing your limited appeal aesthetic on the rest of us...
- creez0
i buy it , why should be the public space only for advertisement and bullshit.
- stem0
^ cos it's paid for...
- so then its argument about money. rich can say what they want and the poor cant?autoflavour
- No, "the poor" also part-own public space with the rest of us.stem
- stem0
Public Space doesn't mean - All this belongs to you.
It means - You share this space with everyone else.
Would you go into a friends house, or your mums and spray your tags on their walls?
As far as I am aware, the majority of advertising is "hosted" on private space, spaces bought and owned by other companies.
I guess the only "adverts" seen in public space are public notice or public service messages issued by local or central government. This kind of message tends to be useful stuff anyway, so I don't see how anyone could object to this.
- autoflavour0
enjoy your nice gentrified clean spaces, where you can all be nice and safe and not challenged.
advertising pollutes our public spaces and we have no say in it. we are bombarded by commercial messages and like SHEEP we just blindly accept it.
but i forgot, designers make their money off this work.. thus its in your interest to protect advertising.
- yeah man, fuck the system, anarchy roolz!
HOAX WOZ EREHoax
- yeah man, fuck the system, anarchy roolz!
- moth0
"enjoy your nice gentrified clean spaces"
Damn right. Why would I want to see your clutter as well as advertisers? You're guilty of the same charges you lay at their gate - "pollutes our public spaces and we have no say in it".
- stem0
Stugoo - "Sometimes graffiti is employed to communicate social and political messages"
I have seen instances of "political graffiti" in spain, similar to this...
I guess there may be justification for graffiti in a political context. However, similar to what I said earlier people with political agendas can express themselves in more useful and productive ways than spraying a message on a wall.
- autoflavour0
i never realized how conservative QBN actually was..
- kelpie0
how is it conservative to not want to live in a scrappy, scrawled on environment that looks like shit?
- moth0
Basically, like it or not, you're out numbered. Most people find your art an eyesore and they don't want it on their streets and they don't want to see it everyday. Same as litter. Same dog shit. It's all the same to them...
- flashbender0
- yeah man, keep it real!
reclaim the space!Hoax - exactlybabaganush
- yeah man, keep it real!