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- set0
^ Designers often seem to forget that design is for the people, you can have a valid opinion regardless of wether you have a competitive body of work behind you or you scoop chicken shit all day.
- airey0
jeez set, you iz one serious cat.
- set0
c'mon more bitching and arguing and defending etc etc ....
- fate_0
Which pieces of work can you actually say "This is mine", ravi?
- typist0
homeboy busted!!
- airey0
fate_ - below is intended as a conversation and discussion point, not a cheap shot.
aren't we graphic designers? isn't that solving communication for clients through design? so, using established styles and methods is part of our brief. the talent for the most part is the quality of the delivery and it's success in achieving client goals.
do you also think a designer should:
• create a new original font for every brief - because using an existing font is copying.
• never use photoshop or illustrator (or indesign) styles, filters or plugins - obviously they are already used somewhere.
• hand-make paper for every print run, i mean it's been used before yeah?
• etc - pls insert other ludicrous examples to support my small point but not really.if you honestly think anyone's folio is original you may need to prepare yourself for what i like to call 'reality'. it might seem a crushing blow when it catches up to you.
discuss.
- this is what i'd call the difference between graphic design and being an artist. they are different.airey
- sorry but this is blatant plagiarism.max_prophet
- fate_0
Yes that is an excellent form of discourse. Let's come up with the most extreme situations (create a new original font...) and use them to justify dishonest and deceptive practices.
You'll have to pardon me if I don't feel like partaking in such nonsense, airey.
- then discuss the point underneath the crap i wrote, which is still valid.airey
- airey0
this is the point of dicussion:
aren't we graphic designers? isn't that solving communication for clients through design? so, using established styles and methods is part of our brief. the talent for the most part is the quality of the delivery and it's success in achieving client goals
the rest is crap obviously to overstate the initial point.
- airey0
1: the flowers / flora on type is a design style that i could list here from hundreds of designers sites. you list an example next to ravi's but that's an example you discovered first. it's been around a long while and in fact can be found being used massively in the 60's in illustrated form. it'd call it a style.
2: i lectured for 2 years around 1998 and had a wall of laserprints from students who scanned their faces in the first week of their course when they discovered their brand new tools. in '94 when i did my course we had a class clown who did the same. could that be called original at any stage?
- airey you are stupid. go back to the irrelevant threads where you belong.amongthemasses
- why?airey
- because you are making no sense as usual.amongthemasses
- set0
I'm with fate on this one, its very blatant copying in my books.
- fate_0
Airey, an established method or style I'd consider "minimalism" or using Helvetica for every possible thing, or hell, even abstract 3d.
I'd consider what you're describing as genres. Not blatant repeats.
- fate_0
I mean FFS, he's 19 and calling himself an "Art Director?"
He lists DepthCore as one of this clients. Really? DepthCore?
Bottom line, his entire portfolio is what I would consider dishonest.
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Clients: Mooks, Lee's Jeans, K·Swiss, Royal Elastics, L'Oreal, Redken, Oakley, Bowen-Paul Arico, Daniel Thawley, The KDU, UV Magazine, Hint Magazine, Computer Arts, Pigeon Combine, Lost Valentinos, Sydney Olympics Park, BP Solar, Reeves, Jasco, State of Tomorrow, Whitehouse Institute of Design, Jana Bartolo, Imagine Publishing, Depthcore LCC and Weekend Magazine.
--------------------------------...- That's not even mentioning the photos that he "retouched."fate_
- sikma0
is it really copying? all those ideas are so played out they more or less have become public domain.
lets forget about "who did it first" and pay attention to the execution.
- i agree.airey
- I'd feel cheated as a client or employer.max_prophet