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Sort of a rant / gripe. How can any self respecting developer / designer take a client on, install joomla and a template, change a few colors, and charge the client for "web design" as well as a joomla install? Also, isn't that sort of not legal in a round about way, as they are taking an open source template and selling it to someone? I guess since they are changing things it can be looked at as charging for their consultation rather than the template, but still. How fucking lazy is that?! LAZY!
nothing illegal about it unless they're stealing...
... consider them a 'mom and pop' shop - there's lots of little graphics / sign shops around town that have nothing more than shitty clipart books to choose from and about 20 fonts...
... there's nothing illegal about a company being a 'quicky' shop that's all templated... not everything has to be passion-driven pure custom design, duder!!!!
- GAH! I suppose not, but honestly, it gets my goat. I've seen people charge just as much as someone would for a custom design though.brains
- custom design. I guess that's what gets me. $6k to install joomla and change a css file.brains
- you have a point when it comes to that price... but there's still nothing 'wrong' with it... it's just business and the quality is still there...turk_182
- there... just not all the passion that you and I would bury in it. :)turk_182
- I guess I just see it as lazy.brains
It depends on the client requirements. Joomla can be used for client work. Why not? The sooner you realize that people make money using these things, the better off you are. It ain't gonna' stop.
Is it lazy, I dunno', maybe, depends on what the client wanted.
I guess what bothers me is when the client has no idea. I've run in to several situations where the client assumes it has been a custom job, and they are unsatisfied with it. We then swoop in and say "hey, your website is rather shite, did you know it's pretty much this exact template?" and they say "no, and we paid loads for it, it took 2 months."
if you need a simple cms, why re-invent the wheel, honestly? Wordpress and Joomla can be customized so much that they don't even look anything like themselves after enough customization.
Dude, why you so mad?
HOW CAN SHE SLAP??!
I'm not really mad, I'm just saying, It's lazy and underhanded if you don't let the client know you're just slapping them with a template and running away while they sit there with the joomla admin open trying to figure out what the fuck it is. Just not cool man.