Internet to become Filternet

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  • sikma0

    no matter how just censorship may seem it always exists on a slipper slope

  • hektor9110

    Come one guys.... this is all logical, there will be censorship on things that might led to real logical notions. It will all depends on how close we get to the truth. (I'm I on the right page here?)

  • JOSF0

    someone will come up with a way to get around it.
    they always do.

    • Where there is a will, there is a way. I don't think we have seen the last of donkey porn somehow.slappy
  • sikma0

    http://www.onion-router.net/

    The Onion Routing program is made up of projects researching, designing, building, and analyzing anonymous communications systems. The focus is on practical systems for low-latency Internet-based connections that resist traffic analysis, eavesdropping, and other attacks both by outsiders (e.g. Internet routers) and insiders (Onion Routing servers themselves). Onion Routing prevents the transport medium from knowing who is communicating with whom -- the network knows only that communication is taking place. In addition, the content of the communication is hidden from eavesdroppers up to the point where the traffic leaves the OR network.

    • sleep easy tonight slappy knowing there will be donkey porn for years to comesikma
  • chossy0

    Well I can never agree with you on this issue, I am just concerned that you have no issue with the government telling you what you can see in a 15 cert movie or an 18 cert movie but you have real issue with censorship of the internet, I just see it as a strange view point because you have accepted all your life the movie restrictions, yet on the internet where potentially far more harmful material can be seen by a 15 year old you cannot accept the censorship, but like I said I don't like the stuff they are trying to ban so it wouldn't bother me it would go unnoticed by me and hopefully by the greater public as well.

    • but with restricted movies I have a choice to watch it or not. With this filter my choice is removed.toe_knee
    • With restricted movies, when you Reach the age of 18 you have a choice to watch it or not.chossy
    • thats what I said. But anyway, are you tdelling me no kid in the history of mankind has ever watched an 18's movie?toe_knee
    • nope I am not saying that atall, I am saying that the restriction already exists.chossy
    • but only for under-18s..ribit
  • GORADIO0

    I think you're all missing the point... it's in the last paragraph or two.

    I think 99% of us would be agreed that child porn is bad, and that we should take measures to stop it. Because it is sick wrong and horrible and all.

    The problem is that a policy like this is 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater' as they say - the baby in this case being freedom of speech.

    The really scary thing - the point of the article - is that today, the Australian government have (however effectively or innefectively) banned child pornography, but tomorrow it could be Wikipedia. or QBN.

    It's scary because it's a step towards the kind of Big Brother/1984 vision of the future.

    • this sort of ban is dangerously close to them saying who you may or not converse with. The internet is not just 'media', its communication of all sorts.ribit
    • ... it's communication of all sorts.ribit
  • lobstarr0

    I agree with Goradio, totally missed the point.

    The point is that a government with the ability to filter ANYTHING AT WHIM is fucking scary, especially if it thinks its for the peoples best interest. Regardless if it is content such as the censorship of some particular media channels.

    Imagine this... a video/docu that highlights Australia's government, disrespecting human rights (a-la Guantanamo Bay), gets filtered and never questioned nor ever heard of, or how you'd say... "unnoticed and hopefully by the greater public as well...."

    I don't know how you can compare censorship of certain movies compared to the censorship of the internet, its just bizarre. The internet is the ONLY one true form of unbiased media channel we have.

    • Sorry, I meant unbiased as in selection of information we get to choose, information will always be biased. Fact's won't.lobstarr
    • and the big point here is that the internet is not just 'media'.ribit
  • chossy0

    Imagine this... a video/docu that highlights Australia's government, disrespecting human rights (a-la Guantanamo Bay), gets filtered and never questioned nor ever heard of, or how you'd say... "unnoticed and hopefully by the greater public as well...."

    Utter nonsense. toe_knee has some good points, however you lobstarr are taking a journey into fantasy land. Imagine this or it could lead to this, no it fucking couldn't, and if it did I would be leading that charge against it, but a ban or a restriction of some sort is absolutely necessary, children cannot protect themselves they are not experieced enough and are not strong enough to deal with things.
    In London recently a kid threw himself off a building and people at the bottom were jeering him to do it and filming it on their phones and asking him how high he could bounce when he hits the ground. Recently an elderly woman was knocked down and killed in Edinburgh and kids were crowding round taking movies etc. on their mobile phones. I put it to you that the complete lack of respect for human life exposed on these two occasions can be attributed largely to the content people are exposed to on the internet the shear volume of it and ease of availablity. Has changed society forever, something has to be done.

    • So they should definitely work on fixing it so I can control what my children watch, but leave my freedom of speech alone.ribit
    • Its like they are taking shortcuts rather than doing the hard work to fix it properly.ribit
  • toe_knee0

    Um, Sky News showed Sadam Husseins execution live. They also encourage people to send in their mobile phone movies of news as it happens. You can not blame it soley on the internet.
    I see your point, but if a kid wants to find movies of death etc they are gong to find it. It is up to the parents to teach them right and wrong, and for them to know the difference between fiction and real life.

    • There could be tech solutions built into the internet as well, but always an opt-out for adults.ribit
  • molo0

    i find the rise in child porn and violent content extremely disturbing but a lot of content filtering and censorship is a double edged sword with another agenda

  • pr20

    choosy since you mention trips to the library so often (albeit to watch xxx movies, but still) why don't you go ahead and start reading and renting some documentaries and then you will see that more often then not the governments wants to protect the status quo so under the blanket of "lets protect our children" they will try to do exactly what Goradio said, which is simply chose what they want filtered, including political content. It's happening as far as TV images are concerned already in Russia (where members of opposition parties are digitally removed from talk shows!!!) and in the US (where journalist would get access to army-filtered images of the war in Iraq, to protect our children, no doubt). If it's already happening on different platforms, what makes you think it won't happen with this one????