Victory in Iraq?
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"It is nowhere written that the American empire goes on forever" - Chalmers Johnson
- TheBlueOne0
"Honestly TBO explain how you can be against the US actions in Russia? We setup an ANT-MISSILE defense system..."
A) What actions "in" Russia?
B) What do we need an anti-missle shield for?Look, I actually have my degree in poly sci and also studied military history for a long time. I can direct you to the literature, the stuff that gets read at West Point, not the Fox News talking points.
The only advantage of a "missle shield" is to ensure first strike capability. In other words, it's a message to the Russians that they cannot launch first on us, but we will launch first on them. It's a provocation manuever. It barely made strategic sense when Reagan tried to do it, it makes zero sense in the current geo-political climate.
Again, cui bono?
- designbot0
President Mikhail Saakashvili told Georgians in a televised address that Russia was attempting to occupy the whole country. He said: "This provocation was aimed at occupying South Ossetia, Abkhazia and then all of Georgia."
- TheBlueOne0
Hypothetically, so what if Russia decided to have an alliance with Mexico. Invited them to be part of some new Warsaw Pact and Mexico agreed....? ACtually to make it a more closer analogy let's say Texas seceded from the US an dthen signed a mutual defense pact with Russia...how would that go down with you?
That's essentially what is happening in Georgia, except switch the actors around.
Not to say the US isn't right in protecting an ally like Georgia, but there were smart ways to handle it and dumb provacative ways. Bush went dumb and provocative.
And you know what, after a while the "dumb" argument doesn't make much sense. There is a rationale behind it? What is it? Fuck if I know, but you'll get close if you keep along the cui bono line.
The timing of all this tension with russia strikes me as odd..not passing the smell test...
- Ok, I think we are on the same page on this...with slightly different takes. I agree with what you are saying.designbot
- Still I don't think it's comparing apples to apples when you try and put Russia in the same shoes as the US currently is.designbot
- peace and love :)designbot
- Just saying that Russia's action towards Georgia are rational.TheBlueOne
- If you want to be dumb and make the idealogical argument for domestic political points go ahead...TheBlueOne
- ...but that doesn't change the real situation of grand strategy.TheBlueOne
- Not saying "you" as you db, just using it in the abstract...TheBlueOne
- orangecrunch0
Lets play Twister lets play risk.
- How about Thermo Nuclear War?TheBlueOne
- :)TheBlueOne
- Scud Attack!Mimio
- ukit0
- designbot0
Ok, back to the middle east. Was McCain singing the song from the group Vince Vance and the Valiants? Or did he make up his own lyrics?
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Went to a mosque, gonna throw some rocks.
Tell the Ayatollah..."Gonna put you in a box!"
Bomb Iran. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Our country's got a feelin'
Really hit the ceilin', bomb Iran.
Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
Ol' Uncle Sam's gettin' pretty hot.
Time to turn Iran into a parking lot. Bomb Iran..
