The Belgian Government
The Belgian Government
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- ukit0
How does one pronounce "Yves?"
- rafalski0
Weren't you doing just fine without a government not so long ago? Why worry?
You're in good hands, your own. Seriously, countries run themselves. This way at least you're sure the govt. won't break anything.- If there's one good thing about Europe, raf, is Social Care. The richest pay for the poorest. What would you rather have?********
- Freedom to opt out. To keep my social tax money and get insurance of my choicerafalski
- Ah but then you'd want to keep your EU labour market as well wouldn't you?********
- "I want no tax but I need people to sell my useless shit to. You figure it out!". That's what's you're saying.********
- Free labour market doesn't require EU at all. Hailed as EU achievement it's just normalcy brought back.rafalski
- 100-150 years ago people moved freely across Europe - that's nothing newrafalski
- yes, I want my tax money, and if other people keep theirs they can buy my shit if they want. everybody happy, right?..rafalski
- Doesn't require EU? How would you cope then with exchange-rates; every country trying to balance their export-sheet like before?********
- ...before. I admire your liberalism (I like it myself), but I think you're being naïve as not to see the benefits of a common-trade union.********
- ... common-trade union. Common-trade implies common taxation. There's no such thing as a free lunch.********
- It worked well before the EU. ECC was all Europe needed and it was good.rafalski
- Most countries are afraid to lose their identity. I understand that, since Brussels, wants their logo everywhere.********
- Actually, we're being lied by propaganda there is EU - it's still EC (formerly ECC) until Lisbon Treaty is signed.rafalski
- And they want to keep their own policies. I defend that myself. But that's a thin line when economy gets involved.********
- Tax harmonization will kill EU economically. When we all get French/German taxes, EU will fall imo. Which is ok by me,rafalski
- In a free-market EU you can't have (eg) different law standings. That would allow some countries to behave differently as to penalties.********
- differently. You see, it's about regular contribution - it's about keeping deviant business on a short leash.********
- It's all about large international business and governing bodies keeping control over us easier that's all if you ask me.rafalski
- It's not about labels and logos. Portugal has socialism, Ireland capitalism (kinda), they're different. They want it all flat.rafalski
- ok. I see we have the same liberal principles, but I am more concerned with evolution.********
- I do think that my absurd taxation will lead to a better future. You don't believe that. That's how we stand.********
- It's in Systems Theory: A single big system is more likely to fail than 27 small ones linked together and it will.rafalski
- you're using words, not logic, my friend (I like you). System Theory says if an hinge fails it breaks the whole system...********
- Independent states - if one fails by a bad decision, other can help and learn from its experiencerafalski
- ... but hinges can be replaced, and it will still work. Doors are harder to manage than hinges.********
- That's not I would do btw. I would respect Ireland referendum and come with somthing else.********
- Empires fall themselves. Monopolies fall themselves.
They only need time. That's why I believe in ECC not EUrafalski - Some new plot. I think that's what they should do. If it ever comes my way to vote it, I'll vote this way.********
- ok, our comments are now mixed up.********
- I say, I would vote until everybody agrees on the same idea or call it off upon a deadline. Say 2010.********
- Haha.. flights from Oporto to Dublin in October are almost free with capitalist Ryanair..rafalski
- Why don't you take a few bottles of port and come down as you said you had been planning to? :)rafalski
- Then we'll organize Dublin drinks and discuss politics properly!rafalski
- I could do that. no prob. But then I'd be booked as terrorist with liquids ;)********
- You better come here, and stay at my place. We're not that paranoid yet.********
- At Dublin airport you're a suspect if you don't bring any liquor with you!rafalski
- You're confusing Ireland with UK apparently, only threat to you here is the lack of airport authorities' competencyrafalski
- Thanks for the counter-invitation dude!rafalski
- If there's one good thing about Europe, raf, is Social Care. The richest pay for the poorest. What would you rather have?
- ********0
See how the media works?
There weren't any news when Belgium got its government back (can't remember hearing about a solution for that crisis last year): we only heard about it when it had no government for a few hundreds days, and now we hear about it again when it falls again. Pretty sad media coverage if you ask me.
- rafalski0
For a minute there I thought you meant the EU government, but their website doesn't say anything..
http://www.godf.org/