moral dilemma
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- T-Dawg0
I wouldn't do it.
Morals are more important. There are always other clients and things to work on.
You'll feel better after making that decision.
- ukit0
You clever bastard, how did you land the President's site redesign?
- easytouse0
i didnt land the client, the company did. i think anyone who has ever worked for the company is going to hell.
- schmutzi0
so what is you gonna do? decided yet?
we once had a vote in our shop on the management level. it was decided to not get involved with the defense industry. pron-industry is also a no-no. primarily to not piss off conscious clients.
personally i think you´ll always get your hands dirty in the commercial field. the swine are everywhere (e.g. by proxy through holding companies). the system is corrupted on so many levels, there´s no way to stay clear of it.
in the end you´re not asked to join the team and start shooting people, you´re just selling your time typing and clicking some designs together. you´ll be fine karma-wise.
- Stink0
Tell us who it is already.
- gramme0
I have turned projects down before for moral reasons. So far I've gotten only respect for taking a stand. State your case clearly and without rancor, apologize for the fact that you are unable to participate, move on.
- schmutzi0
what kind of gigs were these?
- sleepyfatso0
Néstle, Nike, Coca-Cola, McDonalds, The Conservatives? Do they make you go to hell?
- somatica0
If you've been at the company < 3+ years: Speak up and kindly say you object against the project.
If you've been at the company > 1 year. Bite the bullet and do the project. If you're new and trying to gain experience, really, who the heck are you to speak up about a project like that. You might get yourself fired ya know.
- Stink0
somatica, your > and < signs are completely ass backwards.
Go learn what they mean.
- hiddenmoves0
Did some work for a company who sold missile deployment systems once. Did such a bad job I don't think I've got anything to feel guilty about though.
- Dr_Rand0
I am dying to hear what the product is, though
- gramme0
Once when I was an intern, my boss cooked up an ad campaign for a company that prided itself on selling decent clothes for very low prices. He asked me to work on the accompanying illustrations for some of the ads. The headlines were to play on famous quotes, but tweak them to be about cheap = good. Here were the only two I remember:
1. A picture of a black man speaking to a crowd "that may or may not be MLK Jr.". Headline: "I have a cheap dream..."
2. A picture of Jesus preaching his sermon on the mount. Headline: "Blessed are the cheap, for they will inherit the earth."
I told my boss that those were interesting ideas, but that I had personal ethical and moral problems that prevented me from working on those concepts. I told him I was sorry, but I just couldn't do it. So, I went home and cooked up a dozen alternative headlines, also historical quotes, that wouldn't raise ethical/moral issues for people. My boss understood and respected me for putting in the extra effort to provide an alternative.
- Stink0
Rand it's probably something queer like "Oh I can't design a direct mail for this cereal, it's full of high-fructose corn syrup!"
You know he doesn't have a legitimate concern, it's something wanky and only his hippy girlfriend cares about.
- easytouse0
i have come to terms with the project and i realized a few things.
- gramme0
Well that's certainly not cryptic at all.
- easytouse0
well i cant say who its for, but i will say that i will learn a lot from the project. do it, move on and never look back.
- cuke4260
i was asked to work on a project for the Bratz franchise as a freelancer, about 5 minutes into the project i was like 'sorry can't do it' and they totally understood and gave me another project to work on
- Dr_Rand0
what you have revealed is of no use to anyone, unless you're talking to yourself