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- dorfsman0
A great edition of 'The Sky at Night' discussing the latest theories on the universe:
- TheBlueOne0
- Enter, and ye shall find the ghostly face of Ernest Borgnine.harlequino
- LOL at Giant Floating Ernest Borgnine head at center of universe!marychain
- sikma0
Nasa announcing that they will be making an announcement a week in advance. Is that normal for them?
- Makes them Apple, basically.harlequino
- only when they want attentionoozie
- and funding.detritus
- It's actually lame. I admire Nasa much, but this is really unique - like they wanted some speculation.Corvo
- epete220
i think nasa is useless. they fly above the earth, twittle their thumbs and fly back down I want to see an alien dammit
- sikma0
I always figured that if Nasa or any space agency found evidence of little green men it would the leader of said country that would make the announcement. Assuming they would make any announcement at all.
*cringes at the thought of the biggest scientific discovery in human history being announced by dumbo
- ismith0
Apparently the NASA announcement was 69 until I posted here.
- Corvo0
It's pretty much known and generally been said by most scientists, that Life (as we define it - with independent moving bodies, structured relations of organs and any sort of more or less communicative intelligence) is probably non-existent in our solar system, unless in a very rudimentary microscopic form which could hardly be considered a living independent body but the condition for its development. When Nasa comes up with a week's notice about something they've been looking for 50 years, I'm more prone to believe it's nothing that spectacular - but rather another planet's moon or something similar that proves an existing 50 yr. old theory.
- detritus0
I dunno, maybe it's just me, but proof of a Black Hole is pretty gosh-darned exciting.
I think it's fairly futile to hold on to the hope of their being truly alien life of any kind elsewhere in our solar system, even at the single cell level (beyond related stuff that could've been blown between planets earlier in history).
- yeah, let's throw random shit into it and see what happens. Britney Spears and Paris in first, please.Jaline
- (unless the black hole leads to some great land we get to live in, but we won't know until we try it out)Jaline
- Better yet, why not make slebs the first human test subjects in LHC collisions?detritus
- good one. I approve.
*signs documentJaline
- Corvo0
That would be exciting indeed, but how could a solar system be a solar system if it had a black-hole in it's midst? How would planets and bodies in the limits of the solar system be dependent from the star? It wouldn't be a solar system, innit? Unless they're announcing it's not a solar system, which would pretty much bamboozle the hell out of everything it's known so far. I'm more prone to believe it's something about Pluto and the limits of the solar system itself. NASA was pretty pissed about the fact that ESA announced Pluto was not a real planet, but a large sun-dependant asteroid given it's size.
On the other hand, having found "something" that could explain why the known orbits suffer gravitational deviations and are not circumferential, but an ellipse - that could be something. Still, it's pretty inconceivable it's a black-hole. No spaceship trajectory (to Mars or Saturn) in the solar system could ever have been calculated if there was such an unknown gravitational-pull as such that comes from a black-hole (or that which is by definition the pull from an unknown black-hole).
- A black hole at the center of the GALAXY, not the SOLAR SYTEM. If it was in the Solar System we'd be dead a loooong time agoTheBlueOne
- Corvo0
* blushes
TBO, honestly, I completely misread the announcement...I was totally convinced we were talking about a "near" object.
Duh. So that's why this NASA thing wasn't making any sense.
I beg your pardon. I was careless.
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- Somehow this explains why I never got into science. I'm too distracted (or stupid). I don't have what it takes to do it.Corvo
- hahaha, stop it. you're smart :)Jaline
- Yeah Corvo, you are one clever bastard...TheBlueOne
- detritus0
There could be a black hole in the solar system - it just wouldn't be a very big one. Perhaps there's a small one out there in the far reaches - the infamous PlanetX that some people want to believe in :)
As for elliptical orbits - it would be odder still if every orbit were perfectly circular. The implication then being that the solar system is an entirely discrete and perfectly ordered construct, in a state of perfect equilibrium, which it's clearly not.
I think NASA were probably largely non-plussed about Pluto's demotion - it's a destination come what may, funding or nay. American Astronomers, on the other hand, have lost their Solar planet - so those wild cats are on the war path!
- i mentioned the elliptical orbit, b/c I was wondering what pull could call a planet back to the sun since it wandered off.Corvo
- but that idea of balance is good... but what's making the balance?Corvo
- sorry again: I meant what makes the non-equilibrium balanced, then?Corvo
- what do you mean by balance?ribit
- or for that matter 'entirely discrete and perfectly ordered construct'? who's deciding what's 'ordered"?ribit
- ukit, it doesn't need a "who?", just needs a "why"Corvo
- why what?ribit
- Actually you could be correct detrius about a small singularity, but I'm not sure on the lifetime of small blackholes..TheBlueOne
- detritus0
OH COOL.
I was looking up the Kuiper Belt Cliff, to add something substantial for the PlanetX theory, when I happened upon this - "In astronomy a cubewano is a Kuiper belt object that orbits beyond Neptune and is not controlled by an orbital resonance with the giant planet." - Cubewanos! Queuebans! QBNos! geddit?! WOOO!
Hmm. No, that's not really that cool, is it?
*goes back to watching shitty tv programms on the deelo*
- JerseyRaindog0
What's with all the science posts? Since when was QBN populated by geeks and nerds?
Oh wait...
- Actually, QBNers always come off as being bullies or just "wise guys" in general. But we know the truth...Jaline
- Jaline speaks the wise words.TheBlueOne
- ribit0
don't worry.. there's not that much science in this thread
- ghandolf0
I think it prolly is an announcement of a giant black hole heading our way, but Bush didn't want to upset Jenna's wedding plans and wedding this weekend, (and of course Mother's Day) ... sooooo, we'll wait till next Wednesday to announce the end of times.
- Jaline0
Here it is. I found an image of a black hole: