Vector Face Illustration - $$$
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- traut
I have a client that wants me to do vector illustrations of all the staff. Similar to this style.
its a non-profit organization, any ideas on whats a reasonable fee for this ?
- inhaler970
1 million DOLLARS! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
- ismith0
Depends. If it's not your style, tell them to shove it or pay through the nose. If you do that kind of thing, just charge a straightforward hourly rate based on your design fees (a little cheaper, since it requires less thinking).
- chossy0
Ask an illustrator like spooky to tell you how much he charges and then work from that. Mind you you;d have to double what he charges as he is utterly shite.
- Spookytim0
Ask a cunt like Chossy to tell you how much he charges and then work from that. Mind you you'll have to multiply what he charges by about ten as he is utterly shite.
- Fuck me, that's a Spooky coincidence eh Choss?Spookytim
- ha ha ha :/
I've got incredible respect for you I don't know how you do it but you do baby you do it every time.chossy - haha! so mean
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- Spookytim0
Fuck "non profit"... its a business, even its in the business of being a wet flannel. I give no head for doo goody bullshit set-ups that try to save the Alpaca-flea by screwing me out of my mortgage payments so they don't have to spend their government grant. Fuck em. Charity? Fine... Expect Rush Job quotes from me.
I wouldn't do it for less than 10 pounds sterling. If there were more than a hundred people to draw, I would demand a 2£ surcharge. UP FRONT!
That's the way I do business.
- migy0
ask for £3k then see what they say. Not for profit means they dont make money. They still spend though. Dont do nothing for nothing..
- Neuarmy0
Pay the artist they are referencing to do it: http://www.upso.org/
- yeah good pointmigy
- they didnt reference upso, i just threw the upso image down because from my discussion with them thats the style they spoke to me about upso was one dude that came to mind, i'll end up doing the shit because they wont be able to pay worth a damn probably im just trying to get an idea of how badly im going to get raped on this job.traut
- traut0
so any estimated cost for 15 illustrations of peoples faces ?
they didnt reference upso, i just threw the upso image down because from my discussion with them thats the style they discribed. i'll end up doing the job because they probably wont pay worth a shit. im just trying to get an idea of how badly im getting raped on this gig.
- Spookytim0
Okay, well, I wouldn't do it personally but I would guess they would expect to pay £200 / $400 but it will kill them to do even that probably.
The trouble with doing jobs for people who don't make money is that even when you stoop to a ridiculously low figure that is way below your time and effort, its still too much for them to pay. I would be wincing about having to draw 15 faces for a paultry 200 smackers, and they in turn would be wincing about having to stump up what seems to be a small fortune to them.
There is no happy middle ground in this kind of situation. Feign illness.
- arthur0
I agree.
Even the $400 is very generous to them given how much time it will take you to make these things. $100 each is still dirt cheap, and a deal for them. Respect your time. Make it worth your while or find a student who wants to pad their portfolio.
- horton0
haha 400$.. ? for 15 illustrations? fck that. it'll be a full days work just getting everyone organized and portraits photo'd for reference.
like aurthur said even $1500 for all is stupid cheap. i'd imagine with all the prep & post you'll be putting 3-4 hours into each portrait.
i wouldn't do it for less than $150 each.
- You misunderstand me. Thats not what I would quote thats what I bet they will want to pay...Spookytim
- they supplied me with photos, not good ones but photos none the lesstraut
- ... I have a rule not to discuss fees on here no more as I am working with people on here.Spookytim
- haha yeah good rule... clients on QBN is not good and unfortunately sometimes less said in public is better.horton
- ntslide0
Don't give them a break. I am currently working with a (pretty successful) NPO and dealing with the prez of the company. He says that every dime they make MUST go back into the company. What that means is that it's all a tax write off, so charge away. My two cents...
- arthur0
i dunno about 3 - 4 hrs each, but it would be time-consuming. I'm drawing portraits today, not terribly unlike the example above, and I'd estimate 1.5 - 2 hours each. I'm sure as hell getting paid more than $150 each though.
Nonprofit is a different story. Do the job only if you really want to, because you sure aren't doing it for the money.
- Neuarmy0
I agree with Arthur. Does this benefit YOU in anyway?
Just looking to add to your book? Otherwise, maybe just walk away..
- morilla0
15 people? You know the time involved will be pretty great. I would say no less that $100 per person. And that is still f-in cheap.
- cholybran0
Doing a gig like this can be great for your book. If you REALLY need it. If your past the stage of- desperately trying to get legitimate shit into your book- then don't waste the time.
It's been my sad experience, that most my early jobs didn't garner me anything I wanted to put in front of anybody. I had to create the good shit on my own time. (Nobody at the time was willing to pay for it.) In other words; I wouldn't have put myself in a decent position without the freebies.
And If money isn't the going concern, definitely don't fuck yourself on time.
- utopian0
FYI- Non-profits generally are more profitable than "for profit" businesses, they simply take advanage of tax loop holes and show break even at the end of each taxable fiscal quarter.
Their board members and employees on average make more in salary then the average for-profit businesses, "don't believe the hype"!!!
- Really? Anytime I ever applied for a job at a non-profit the pay was below average... but that's been my experience anwyay... But I do agree with the above comments. If they want quality work they have to pay for it. Do they ask the electrician to work for less because they are a non-profit?theredmasque
- But I agree they should pay for the artwork. Do they ask the electrician to work for less because they are a non profit?theredmasque
- Point50
tell you what, my agency did some non-profit organization work once. what a fucking nightmare. I was the lead on the project and I wanted to kill myself.
- horton0
its a good gig for an young illustrator really wanting to plug and sell a specific style in their book...
but if my memory serves me correct; traut you're also doing photography and design and painting... so really ask yourself, is it worth the trouble?