Video games + gender
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- Jaline0
Maybe women like the monsterized version of men! Every think of that??!! Eh?
Like Wolverine...
- monster dong734
- They like hairy midgets with questionable grooming habits?flavorful
- shut it, Flash!Jaline
- Though X-23 is hot.flavorful
- she's got some muscles:
http://www.seaneller…Jaline - JEAH!
http://upload.wikime…flavorful - I always thought you were into girls with blond hair and blue eyes, but now I am learning more. First Niko...Jaline
- Basically I like all hot girls. I don't discriminate. Well ... outside of the fact if they are not hot of course, haha.flavorful
- I am partial to blonde and bleu though, haha.flavorful
- lies!
heheJaline - she looks to be pooping... i recommend blond and green eyes with tanned olive skin... course im biased734
- 7340
see also:
final fantasy series (especially X-2 for ps2)
- Jaline0
This will be the legendary beginning to my presentation:
*dim lights
*foreboding music plays
*projector reveals image of Samus
"Hello, colleagues. Look at this image. Is this a man, or a woman?"
*watches classmates' brains explode
- Jaline0
Thanks for the all the suggestions, guys :)
- JKilla770
What was rad about metroid was that you're cruise through this crazy underground world picking up cool items blast'n all the creepy crawlies and all the while you think "Man, this guy is sooooo bad ass" then you beat the game and you're like damn dude looks like a lady!
- Point50
World of Warcraft. If you take armor and put it on a female character it fits way different (much more revealing) than it would on a male character.
- 5timuli0
The Dead or Alive fighting series is chock full of scantily clad brainless bints.
- JKilla770
EA's Army of 2 is getting blasted over in Europe for being too pro American.
Ironic thing is, it's made by a bunch of French Canadians in Montreal haha.
- Jaline0
I don't know. I have to have some rough copy for today, but I may change it before it's due in two weeks.
Basically, I am trying to reveal how specific language and video is used in video games to make a certain message and image come across to the audience.
It's not that the women *should* be "fat, ugly and no self esteem". It's about the message that one gets from playing or viewing a game, and how women are portrayed in relation to men, and how men are portrayed in relation to women.
- madirish0
or the underlying premise that about 99% of all 'men' that play video games like crack have no idea what a 'woman' actually is, thus making the entire portrayal nothing more than a fictional antagonist-character a lever for their gaming method of conquer.
that, and the fact WoW players have their own branded credit card.... ; )
*high-fives Las Vegas...
- creative-0
Maybe look at how women portray themselves through their Avatars in *ahem* Second Life. Could be interesting...
- Jaline0
Some interesting articles:
"Women Who Changed Gaming"
Ms. Pac-Man
http://stevencwatts.newsvine.com…Samus Aran
http://stevencwatts.newsvine.com…Chun-Li
http://stevencwatts.newsvine.com…Lara Croft
http://stevencwatts.newsvine.com…Jade
http://stevencwatts.newsvine.com…Connections b/w them
http://stevencwatts.newsvine.com…
- 7340
well it does promote stereotypes and it also promotes archetypes...
to show a female in a videogame often you have a contrast between the outfits between males and females. where a male might be decked out in full gear, the female equivalent may be wearing much less, or at least far more revealing clothing. take for example, someone in this thread mentioned switching armor between male and female characters with obvious visual results. can this be construed as stereotyping? possibly. most likely its stereotyping the demographic and expecting that most males 13 - whenever want to see women like this. or expect to. but at the same time often these characters are seen as heroes (some aren't obviously there would be a different argument for eyecandy and secondary characters) btu when you are dealing with heroes and that kind of style you are going to have archetypal characters. these people are going to look like models. the guys are going to be lean and full of muscles, the females are going to be athletic, perfectly in shape and have curves. in a sense you could argue that the hero is a stereotyped character, because the everyday hero doesnt always look like a demigod. but there is a reason for this appearance. its understood and accepted. you see perfect people and especially strong abled people and you understand that they are a competent foe for the "baddies"
obviously not all heroes fall into the catagory of archetype. mario for example is far from archetypal though the main story line of damsel in distress, unlikely hero takes on seemingly insurmountable odds is. its actually kindof an interesting assignment, i hope you do well. there is virtually endless reference material. if you want to explore heroes any further i suggest looking into joseph campbell and his work with the hero's myth and journey.
creative also had it right by mentioning the manga styles and japanese sensibility for stereotypes, where obviously some places in asia the female is still considered a second class citizen.
- neverblink0
Like mentioned before, almost every character in a game / comic / whatever is based on an archetype/sterotype. Both male and female.
A game character is someone to identify with. It's a personification of what the gamer wants to be. Boys can be a secret agent and sneak around killing baddies. Girls can be a hottie.
- JKilla770
You should also look into games that use stereotypes to further their creators agenda. Such as games produced by the US military for recruiting purposes. Or religious games, more specifically the one that deals with the rapture.
- Jaline0
Thanks, 734. There are various questions that arise, such as: why does it have to be "understood and accepted"? Why do people have issues with having a wide range of characters and appearances rather than everyone having the same look?
I was thinking about Super Smash Bros., and how everyone is oddly proportioned, but that's hard to compare to more seemingly realistic-looking characters, such as Lara Croft.
I'm looking at perceptions, primarily.
- Jaline0
LOL, this video of Samus makes me want to lean towards talking about the positive portrayals of women too (although some things in the video are questionable).
- October0
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