Is Flash dead/dying?
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- botbot
Lately I have come across less and less flash stuff online, is the hype dead?
- TheBlueOne0
hype? Yes. Functional use? No.
- botbot0
Well, I guess it is still being used heavily for video.
- ukit0
Yeah, exactly opposite I would say. Adobe really took over the web video space in a really short period of time. As for all Flash sites, people seem to have figured out the type of niche they are suited for.
- botbot0
Even Joshua Davis' site is now not flash-based.
- ukit0
But all of his work is
- botbot0
He hasn't figured out how to do generative art with HTML/CSS yet.
- ukit0
Once video becomes more common on the web, I wouldn't be surprised if Flash is actually more prevalent in the future. Seems like eventually there will be a mass market for a Joost type experience with full screen video and interactivity.
- joyride0
no, flash isn't dead, but, other languages have solved some of the clunkiness of the web, which flash did back when it boomed. So I think it's just natural progression.
- CyBrain0
There has been a slow and steady increase in the use of Flash since day 1. The trend won't stop for the foreseeable future.
- zaq0
- utopian0
I have observed many hybrid-websites using Ajax and CSS with a sprinkle of Flash where ever needed like in the: nav/menu system, video clips, banner ads, etc...
There are several reasons for the lack of full-flash sites being developed based on an article in Advertising Age last year as well
as the word around the water cooler:
• Search Engine Optimization
• Development & Maintenance cost of Flash
• Lack of quality Flash programmers
• The Web 2.0 Revolution
- former20
I just look around at my favorite sites. They are all flash.
Granted, not everything can benefit from flash, but all of the sites I enjoy working on can.
- sikma0
is it possible to build a social networking site in flash? do any exist?
- mikotondria20
Actually, I think the developer tools and the spec and scope of what can be done with as3/flex/ etc.. has just got away from the middle part of the bell curve of what developers are capable of..
I've invested a good deal of time in as3, yet would not say that its something I would knowingly offer a client with all it's bells and whistles, as Im not there yet.. Conversely, I can code and design with as2.0 with my eyes shut, but have honestly cooled off from the initial flurry of sites that I did backalong, because expectations have tempered..There are number of things I continue to look to Flash to do primarily - I find it just as easy to retrieve and display data from server-side scripts in a quick little as2 box, as to css them up..
And typographically, I cant think of many other easier way to show dynamic content in a Hoefler font other than using Flash..
Many great high profile sites still use Flash to great effect, I for one see less of it, because my surfing habits have changed.
- ukit0
@sikma - It was attempted, with Microsoft's Wallop. Probably more trouble than its worth though, for all the reasons you wouldn't use Flash for most sites.
- ukit0
Or how about Picnik, really slick use of Flash (Flex actually) for image editing.
- Corvo0
That's not entirely a new question, but a crucial one as WD is concerned.
Flash is/was just an app. It's not webdesign in itself. Interactivity turned out to be a weighty bother of predictable clicks and little else. It's time is spent. People aren't as stupid as marketing says.
To me, flash and a certain type of WD is just another bubble that popped. But then, everything popped in my world.
- flashbender0
I think people are moving away from building 100% flash sites, but as others are saying there are functional applications that flash/flex is very useful for and people are putting flash modules (if you wanna call em that) on sites where suitable.
Not dead yet.