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  • rainman0

    I think in the end... the gist of it is... it's not Clinton that's doing all the damage... it's the idiots voting for her. If the folks in PA would just admit defeat and give Obama the nod, all would be better in the world.

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    Clintons step aside? Hahahahaha

  • ukit0

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politic…

    Democratic Party Official: Clinton Pursuing 'The Tonya Harding Option'

    March 25, 2008 3:44 PM

    l just spoke with a Democratic Party official, who asked for anonymity so as to speak candidly, who said we in the media are all missing the point of this Democratic fight.

    The delegate math is difficult for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, the official said. But it's not a question of CAN she achieve it. Of course she can, the official said.

    The question is -- what will Clinton have to do in order to achieve it?

    What will she have to do to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, in order to eke out her improbable victory?

    She will have to "break his back," the official said. She will have to destroy Obama, make Obama completely unacceptable.

    "Her securing the nomination is certainly possible - but it will require exercising the 'Tonya Harding option.'" the official said. "Is that really what we Democrats want?"

    The Tonya Harding Option -- the first time I've heard it put that way.

    It implies that Clinton is so set on ensuring that Obama doesn't get the nomination, not only is she willing to take extra-ruthless steps, but in the end neither she nor Obama win the gold.

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    • so she is gonna hire a retarded hit man

      BonSeff
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    I hope to see her humiliated and universally scorned for what she has done in this campaign.

  • rainman0

    Is this what we have to look forward to then?


    • Some women look so weird when they cry. That quivering chin. Yuck.mg33
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    "Hillary Clinton has a lot of gall to question her opponent's choice of church considering her own kooky associations. And I think it would be equally repulsive if Barack Obama chose to make an issue of her decision to worship with Sam Brownback and Rick 'Man on Dog' Santorum. Obama certainly could question her faith and what her faith suggests about her political commitments. As Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported in Mother Jones last fall...

    Clinton's prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or "the Family"), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship's only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has "made a fetish of being invisible," former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan.

    The Fellowship leader is Doug Coe, who Clinton has described as "a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God."

    Coe's friends include former Attorney General John Ashcroft, Reaganite Edwin Meese III, and ultraconservative Rep. Joe Pitts (R-Pa.). Under Coe's guidance, Meese has hosted weekly prayer breakfasts for politicians, businesspeople, and diplomats, and Pitts rose from obscurity to head the House Values Action Team, an off-the-record network of religious right groups and members of Congress created by Tom DeLay. The corresponding Senate Values Action Team is guided by another Coe protégé, Brownback, who also claims to have recruited King Abdullah of Jordan into a regular study of Jesus' teachings.

    But Barack Obama has not made Clinton's kooky right-wing church into an issue on the campaign trail because he understands that a person's faith is an intensely personal and (hopefully) non-political affair.

    Clinton's decision to question Obama's choice of church is a bigger problem than her personal tastelessness. Her decision is an arrow aimed directly at the heart of the black community. It is one of the worst acts of public betrayal I have ever seen committed by a Democratic politician in my lifetime, and the most shortsighted and toxic decision I can recall.

    White Americans may be surprised by their introduction to the style of black sermonizing in the figure of Rev. Wright, but the black community sees nothing particularly out of place in his rhetoric. This may or may not be a political vulnerability in the general election, but a far greater vulnerability is opened up by telling the black church-going community that Rev. Wright is the equivalent of Don Imus and his 'nappy-headed hos'. The suggestion that Rev. Wright was engaged in 'hate speech' of a kind so loathsome as to require leaving his church is deeply offensive. The black community is feeling besieged by the national spotlight on Rev. Wright and the ensuing white backlash. They are looking around for allies, and find Hillary Clinton piling on and throwing them under the bus.

    Clinton is not only presumptuous, she is vicious and divisive and hurtful. She should be defending Barack Obama against unfair attacks, and defending and contextualizing the tradition of black sermonizing. In his speech, Barack Obama sought to educate and bring reconciliation. Clinton's response is to throw it all back in his face and suggest that there is something wrong with him for attending his church.

    If Clinton succeeds in pushing this racial polarization to the point that white people will not vote for Obama, the black community will never, ever, forgive her. This is especially true because she can only win on the backs of the superdelegates.

    At this point it is absolutely imperative that the party leaders step in and stop the Clinton campaign from inflicting lasting damage to the relationship between the party and the African-American community. She cannot be allowed to even try to win the nomination this way, let alone actually win it.

    This is poison of the worst possible kind. It will destroy the party's electoral viability more swiftly and more surely than anything I can think of.

    I call on Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Reid, Chairman Dean, and the other leaders of the party top step in right now and call this contest.

    The Clintons absolutely must not be permitted to do this. It must be stopped."

    • Holy fuck is that second paragraph frightening.flashbender
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    Front Row: Clinton flub could end contest by May
    by Paul West

    Everything has to break Hillary Clinton’s way to win the Democratic nomination. That’s why video footage of her 1996 trip to Bosnia, which exposed her campaign-trail accounts of the event as flatly untrue, could hardly have come at a worse time.

    The flap may even have the effect of shortening the Democratic presidential contest. Clinton aides, and her husband, have raised the prospect of a race that goes all the way to the convention in Denver, the week before Labor Day.

    Neutral party strategists expect a much swifter conclusion, which the Bosnia episode—by raising doubts about her foreign policy experience--could help bring about.

    This week, Clinton belatedly admitted that she "misspoke" in claiming that, as first lady, she had landed "under sniper fire" at the Tuzla airport and ran "with our heads down" to waiting vehicles on that 1996 trip. She backtracked after CBS News video surfaced, telling a very different story from the one Clinton had offered repeatedly over the past few months.

    The arc of the latest controversy mimics the uproar over incendiary remarks by Obama’s pastor: a simmering issue that exploded once video evidence emerged. Obama appears, at least for now, to have weathered the storm about his pastor’s racially charged views, which marred Obama’s attempt to be a candidate who transcends race.

    Now it’s Clinton’s turn to keep a problem from spinning out of control. The real story of her Bosnia visits goes to the core of her argument to Democratic voters, that her experience as first lady makes her better suited than Obama to be commander-in-chief "on day one."

    Worse, it raises doubts about her trustworthiness, reinforcing one of her biggest vulnerabilities as a candidate: that her White House run is mainly a quest for political power and that she’s surrounded, as New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson put it the other day, with people who "think they have a sense of entitlement to the presidency."

    Trailing in the delegate count, with far less money to spend than Obama, and running no better than even in the national polls, Clinton can ill-afford any slips. She has to demonstrate conclusively to the superdelegates who will decide the nomination that they should reverse the outcome of the primaries and caucuses, which favor Obama. It’s a high-risk strategy that risks alienating many of those she would need to defeat John McCain, including African-Americans and younger voters energized by Obama’s candidacy.

    To remain a credible contender, she needs to win Pennsylvania, preferably by a substantial margin (anything less than the 10-point spread of her Ohio victory could well be seen as a setback) and then surprise him in several of the May primaries, including North Carolina, the last big state to vote.

    Former President Bill Clinton has said that his wife needs to run up the score in the remaining primaries to convince superdelegates that she would be the stronger candidate against McCain and deserves their vote.

    At the very least, the Bosnia story is a distraction from her attempt to rally Pennsylvania Democrats. It follows the recent collapse of her efforts to force re-dos of contest in Michigan and Florida, a blow to Clinton’s hopes of generating momentum in the final weeks of the primary season.

    Given her tenacity, and her success in keeping the race going when she faced elimination in earlier primaries, some Democrats are convinced that Clinton won’t quit before the party meets in Denver, five months from now.

    But that seems increasingly unlikely. A better question is whether the contest will effectively end in May or go until the primary season is over in early June.

    Tad Devine, a party strategist with vast experience as a delegate counter, thinks that by June, a decisive number of superdelegates will get behind Obama, barring "an incredible run" by Clinton in the remaining states.

    Since early February, at least 65 superdelegates have endorsed Obama, compared with no more than five for Clinton, giving him a victory in what Devine calls the second wave of superdelegate moves. Many of those backing Obama are fellow senators, congressmen and governors, including former Clinton allies like Richardson and Georgia Rep. John Lewis. Clinton won the first superdelegate wave, before the primaries began, in part because of longtime loyalties to herself and the former president from party activists.

    The last, and potentially decisive, superdelegate moves usually come at the end of the primary season.

    "My gut says there’s gonna be a third wave and Obama’s gonna win it," said Devine.

    Already, leading Democrats, concerned about how the increasingly nasty primary fight is damaging the eventual nominee, have started talking about ways to bring the race to a close. Their efforts, at least for now, are largely designed to pressure Clinton not to prolong her campaign.

    Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen has threatened to convene a superdelegate meeting, though such an event seems unlikely to occur. Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid said this week that he’s spoken with party chairman Howard Dean and that "things are being done" to wrap up the contest before the convention.

    The Clinton camp, meantime, has tossed out a seemingly endless array of ideas to buy time and keep superdelegates from swinging behind Obama, in hopes that he will self-destruct or that popular support for his candidacy will collapse.

    Bill Clinton has indicated that his wife needs to win the total popular vote to balance Obama’s edge in delegates earned in the primaries and caucuses—a remote possibility without revotes in Michigan and Florida.

    Her chief strategist, Mark Penn, has suggested that what really matters is delegates won in primaries (where Clinton currently trails but could move ahead after Pennsylvania). The caucuses, where Obama has prevailed, are "undemocratic," argued another major Clinton backer, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a national party chairman under Bill Clinton.

    Over the weekend, Indiana Gov. Evan Bayh, a Clinton backer angling for a spot on the ticket with her, said the key is which candidate wins states with the most electoral votes (that would be Clinton)—a confection which insiders hooted at, since the states in the Clinton count include some, like Texas and Oklahoma, that Democrats haven’t a prayer of carrying in November.

    Clinton herself pointed out this week that party rules allow all convention delegates, including those who won their seats in primaries and caucuses, to pick any candidate they want. That suggests she’s inclined to twist hundreds of arms if the delegate count gets close enough, though campaign spokesmen insist there’s no effort under way to woo switchers (and the odds of a significant number of defections is extremely remote).

    In order to freeze the superdelegates over the final months of the primary season, she’ll have to cut Obama’s delegate lead (currently about 130) to fewer than 100 and narrow his popular vote advantage (about 700,000) to a tiny fraction of that, say Devine and others.

    That seemed possible, as recently as last week, with Obama under fire over his pastor’s remarks and Gallup’s tracking poll showing Clinton leaping to a seven-point national lead. On the day those numbers came out, her husband was recycling, with evident delight, his line about watching "many experts dance on Hillary’s grave, repeatedly," and how she’s confounded them every time.

    Now, Obama has bounced back and the band is striking up again, as a small but growing number of analysts and columnists conclude that she no longer has a realistic shot at the nomination. With no primaries or caucuses to change the subject and a TV debate, six days before Pennsylvanians vote (where questions about her experience are sure to get aired), suddenly finding herself on the defensive is the last place Clinton wants to be.

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    Woke up, it was a Chelsea morning, and the first thing that I knew
    There was milk and toast and honey and a bowl of oranges, too
    And the sun poured in like butterscotch and stuck to all my senses

    • I remember her well
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    • I knew it
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    • Damn hippies...TheBlueOne
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    "Now that Hillary Clinton has gone and taken the low road on the Obama/Wright issue, she has opened herself up to a bevy of new scrutiny. There have been some great diaries here on DKOS detailing Hillary's association with The Family and it's cultish leader, Douglas Coe. Now, Donna Brazile has weighed in on this issue with an overlooked and astute observation.

    Yesterday was a busy news day filled with faux-sniper damage control, Wright-gate part Deux and a speech by McBush dubbed "The State of the Blah-conomy" An astute observation by uncommitted superdelegate Donna Brazile, a former Clinton advisor for Bill's '92 and '96 campaigns, may have been overlooked by the MSM.

    From the LA Times "Top of the Ticket" blog:

    Donna Brazile -- an uncommitted superdelegate of the Democratic National Convention and one of television's few black, female political pundits -- interjected an intriguing observation this afternoon into a discussion on CNN about Hillary Clinton's stiff-arming of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

    In short, Brazile provided a pointed reminder that some voters (African Americans, in particular, we would think) might recall that Wright did not turn on Clinton's husband during an hour of need for him.

    Her comments assured another burst of attention on the Obama-Wright connection -- something her campaign didn't have to do during the white-hot heat of the controversy. And it took part of the media spotlight away from her faulty memory (or, less kindly, utter fabrication) about her visit to Bosnia when she was first lady.

    Clinton could have contented herself with decrying Wright's messages without saying, in essence, that no way would she tolerate an association with the likes of him.

    That's what Brazile picked up on, making a reference to Wright's willingness to join dozens of other religious figures in attending an annual White House prayer breakfast just as the Starr report on Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky -- in all its lurid detail -- was about to come out. No doubt ...

    ... those at the event -- at least the vast majority of them -- highly disapproved of Clinton's behavior. But they were not willing to shun him.

    Brazile's none-too-subtle point: There's a potential downside to turning away, with nary a forgiving nod, from those who once stood by you.

    Wright, by the way, remains out of the public eye. He had been invited to preach tonight, Wednesday and Thursday at a church in Tampa, but his appearance was canceled because of security concerns.

    -- Don Frederick

    So Hillary would not "choose" Jeremiah Wright as her pastor, but Bill chose the Reverend to seek forgiveness for his indiscretions of infidelity.

    Makes perfect sense to me. Of course, I live in a van down by the Snark River."

    • "independent actions of each of the delegates"? Kinda not how it works Hillary...TheBlueOne
  • Mimio0

    Ari Berman at The Nation is reporting she has less than a 5% chance to win the nomination.

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    I am terrified that 5% will grow like mold spores if not eradicated with the strong fungicide of truth

  • flashbender0

    what's the vegas line on this?

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    Rasmussen Markets data now give Obama a 80.5 % chance to win the Democratic nomination while expectations for a Clinton victory are at 19.6 %. Market data also suggests that Obama has a 47.9 % chance to become the next President. Expectations for McCain to become President are at 39.7 % while Clinton’s prospects are at 12.8 %. Numbers in this paragraph are from a prediction market, not a poll. Using a trading format where traders "buy and sell" candidates, issues, and news features, the Rasmussen Markets harness competitive passions to provide a reliable leading indicator of upcoming events. We invite you to participate in the Rasmussen Markets.

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    "Clinton big dollar donors threaten Pelosi and the DCCC

    Certain people still think they can bully politicians by waving their checkbooks in their faces:

    "The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
    Speaker of the US House of Representatives
    Dear Madame Speaker,

    As Democrats, we have been heartened by the overwhelming response that our fellow Democrats have shown for our party's candidates during this primary season. Each caucus and each primary has seen a record turnout of voters. But this dynamic primary season is not at an end. Several states and millions of Democratic voters have not yet had a chance to cast their votes.

    We respect those voters and believe that they, like the voters in the states that have already participated, have a right to be heard. None of us should make declarative statements that diminish the importance of their voices and their votes. We are writing to say we believe your remarks on ABC News This Week on March 16th did just that.

    During your appearance, you suggested super-delegates have an obligation to support the candidate who leads in the pledged delegate count as of June 3rd , whether that lead be by 500 delegates or 2. This is an untenable position that runs counter to the party's intent in establishing super-delegates in 1984 as well as your own comments recorded in The Hill ten days earlier:

    "I believe super-delegates have to use their own judgment and there will be many equities that they have to weigh when they make the decision. Their own belief and who they think will be the best president, who they think can win, how their own region voted, and their own responsibility.'"

    Super-delegates, like all delegates, have an obligation to make an informed, individual decision about whom to support and who would be the party's strongest nominee. Both campaigns agree that at the end of the primary contests neither will have enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination. In that situation, super-delegates must look to not one criterion but to the full panoply of factors that will help them assess who will be the party's strongest nominee in the general election.

    We have been strong supporters of the DCCC. We therefore urge you to clarify your position on super-delegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the National Convention in August. We appreciate your activities in support of the Democratic Party and your leadership role in the Party and hope you will be responsive to some of your major enthusiastic supporters.

    Sincerely,

    Marc Aronchick
    Clarence Avant
    Susie Tompkins Buell
    Sim Farar
    Robert L. Johnson
    Chris Korge
    Marc and Cathy Lasry
    Hassan Nemazee
    Alan and Susan Patricof
    JB Pritzker
    Amy Rao
    Lynn de Rothschild
    Haim Saban
    Bernard Schwartz
    Stanley S. Shuman
    Jay Snyder
    Maureen White and Steven Rattner

    The Obama campaign responds:

    "This letter is inappropriate and we hope the Clinton campaign will reject the insinuation contained in it. Regardless of the outcome of the nomination fight, Senator Obama will continue to urge his supporters to assist Speaker Pelosi in her efforts to maintain and build a working majority in the House of Representatives," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

    One side is looking to build a consensus and win on the strength of voters, the other side is looking to divide and harm the party. It's easy to see which is which."

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    "As expected, one of the two major Democratic candidates saw a downturn in the latest NBC/WSJ poll, but it's not the candidate that you think. Hillary Clinton is sporting the lowest personal ratings of the campaign. Moreover, her 37% positive rating is the lowest the NBC/WSJ poll has recorded since March 2001, two months after she was elected to the U.S. Senate from New York.

    The poll was conducted Monday and Tuesday this week by Hart-McInturff and surveyed 700 registered voters, which gives the poll a margin of error of +/- 3.7%. In addition, we oversampled African-Americans in order to get a more reliable cross-tab on many of the questions we asked in this poll regarding Sen. Barack Obama's speech on race and overall response to last week's Rev. Jeremiah Wright dustup.

    On that issue specifically, 32% of folks said he "sufficiently addressed the issue," while 26% of those folks believe he needs to address the Wright controversy further; 31% of voters surveyed did not see the speech or had no opinion. Interestingly, of those voters who said they saw the speech, 47% said Obama sufficiently addressed the Wright issue while 37% said he needs to address it further. Among whites, 45% were satisfied with Obama's explanation, 38% were not; Among blacks, 67% said the speech was sufficient while 25% want him to address it further.

    A couple of thoughts:

    It doesn't appear that Obama has taken a substantial hit on the Wright issue, and most seemed to be satisfied with his reponse.
    Beating McCain (if by a small margin) is great news.
    Here is the previous Poll.
    But after more than 40 nominating contests, that party is still undecided about the candidate it will place on the top of the ticket — Sen. Hillary Clinton or Sen. Barack Obama. In the poll, Clinton has a four-point national lead over Obama, 47 percent to 43 percent.

    Compare that to now:

    In the head-to-head matchups, there weren't huge shifts in the numbers with Obama and Clinton dead even at 45% in the national Democratic primary matchup (a slight increase for Obama from early March). In the general-election matchups, Obama led McCain by 2 points and McCain led Clinton by 2 points; all margin of error results and nothing to get too excited over.

    So Obama picks up 2 points while Clinton loses 2. Could just be statistical noise of course. But overall, good news for Obama.

    Update: Only tangentially related, but we have another superdelegate wavering.

    Yesterday it was Maria Cantwell. Today it’s Ron Sims, King County Executive and committed Clinton superdelegate, who was on KUOW’s Weekday this morning telling host Steve Scher that he is, at the very least, unhappy with the destructive potential of the Democratic nomination contest. He also said he’s listening very closely to the debate among superdelegates about how they should get Obama and Clinton to, in his words, "Stop it."

    The discussion starts at 49:50, and I’ve transcribed it below. There’s quite a bit of rambling and hedging, but the take-away, for me, is that Sims may be open to the idea of using his superdelegate power to help end the contest before it harms the party’s chances in November (although, classic Sims, he also seemed to suggest he’d be fine with the Democratic nominee not being decided until the convention in late August).

    Bottom line: He’s wavering."

  • rainman0

    Hey... does anyone know what the limitations are for monetary political contributions?

    • bundling gives the lie to limitations
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  • ukit0

    The War Journals of Hillary Clinton, Vol. 1

    As bullets clawed the air around us and screams echoed down the rubble-strewn tarmac, I felt almost peaceful.

    It was a simple mission, they had told me - get in, shake a few hands and mouth a few platitudes, get out. Simple. Yeah.

    Things had started going wrong while we were still in the air and only gotten worse from there. So here we were, pinned down, choking on the acrid tang of cordite and the heady scent of human blood. The mission was even simpler now: survive. Whatever the cost, survive.

    There was a grunt and a clatter of equipment as Sinbad threw himself down at my side. Sweat glistened on his bare arms, and I could see tendons contracting and relaxing as he squeezed off bursts from his M14. The motion was hypnotic, like a snake about to strike. Perhaps, when all this was over-

    No. Concentrate. Focus on the mission. Survive.

    A shout from my left drew my head around. Sheryl Crow, guitar still strapped to her back, had taken cover behind a haphazard pile of decaying corpses. Her hair, once lustrous, now lank and greasy, was held back from her eyes by a dirty red headband. Her slim nostrils flared in the dirt-smeared oval of her face, seeking air free of the funeral taint shrouding the airfield. Still, I saw a fierce exultation in her expression that I knew mirrored my own.

    Her lithe, nimble fingers stroked the top of an M67 frag grenade, strumming a chord of impending doom. With one quick, economical movement, she plucked the pin free and sent the deadly payload sailing toward the ridge concealing our enemies. My eyes traced the arc, willing it to fly true, to rain death on-

    "There!" Sinbad shouted. "The convoy!"

    I wrenched my gaze in the direction he was pointing. The boom of the grenade registered only faintly, suddenly unimportant. Thirty yards dead ahead was the real target: the armored convoy, offering safety, shelter, survival. If we could reach it.

    "Follow me!" Sinbad roared, levering himself to his feet. As I prepared to follow, a high-pitched whine arrowed across my eardrums and warm, sticky rain splashed my face.

    I forced myself to look, already knowing what I would see. The big man lay there, crumpled, the left side of his head a nightmare maze of blood, brains and tight curls of yellowish-orange hair.

    Time to mourn later. Survive.

    I juked to my left, darting and weaving, somehow making it to Sheryl's position. Her eyes were wide, shock and fear clouding their emerald depths. "Is he-"

    "Gone," I snapped. "We have to move. Now."

    For a moment I wondered if I would have to leave her behind, but then her jaw tightened and she nodded sharply. "Stay behind me," she said with a brief squeeze of my hand, then she was up and running, moving like a deer.

    I followed, matching her as best I could with the mindless insect hum of lead bees filling my ears and the cracked tarmac clutching at my heels. We ran, time stretching, flattening, the convoy impossibly distant, a cruel mirage, too far, too far . . .

    And then, somehow, we were almost there. We had made it, we were going to -

    A flat crack and the mournful twang of a guitar string. Sheryl fell, scarlet-splashed splinters from the shattered guitar seeming to hang in the air.

    I stopped. Men were flooding out of the brush and streaming around the cars. One approached me, smirking, rifle held casually across his body, smoke still rising from the barrel.

    "Every day a winding road," he said in heavily accented English, shrugging a shoulder toward Sheryl's body. He stepped closer, almost close enough to touch. "End of road for her today. And you."

    Still smirking, he began to raise the rifle. I lunged forward, freed the ka-bar concealed under my pantsuit, and buried it to the hilt in his chest. He grunted, stiffened, and then slid backwards, the knife making a greedy slurping sound as it pulled free.

    The other rebels froze, momentarily stunned. There were a lot of them - too many, surely - but it didn't matter. One day, I knew, I would be telling this story to rapt audiences as I made my inevitable march to the Presidency. Would this ragged group of smelly goatfuckers be the ones to stop me? Would they?

    I raised the blade to my lips, licked it clean, and began to laugh.

    Survive. Whatever the cost, survive.

    • BravoTheBlueOne
    • "choking on the acrid tang of cordite" nice. you painted a word picture for me ;)flashbender
  • TheBlueOne0

    • OK at least she knows where Bosnia is. Those soldiers around her are wearing flak jackets for a reason. She deserves some credit.
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    • deserves some credit. It shoes you how stupid shit drives opinion even when the stakes are high.
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    • That video is awesome!mg33
    • HILLarious!ukit
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    CLINTON TACTICS TURN OFF SOME SUPERDELEGATES

    a handful of undecided and pledged superdelegates are coming forward to say her campaign's tactics in recent weeks are doing more harm than good.

    The ground is beginning to Rumble... The Superdelegates know where this boat is leading

    On Clinton invoking Wright

    One delegate said the Clinton campaign is "using Jeremiah Wright to scare white people."

    Keep in Mind, these are Uncommitted or Clinton Superdelegates, and overwhelmingly they're saying one thing all of a sudden...

    On Bosnia-Gate

    they were frustrated by recent reports that Clinton embellished her description of landing in Bosnia as First Lady, and said it suggested she would do anything to win. "I don't remember what movie I saw two weeks ago; I don't necessarily remember what I had for dinner last night," one superdelegate said. "But I would remember having to duck and run from sniper fire."

    OUCH!!!

    On Clinton's Chances to Win and Increasing Outlandish Arguments

    "Periodically, over the last couple of weeks, you will see a news story or get something from the campaign, and you'll go, 'How stupid do you think I am?" one uncommitted superdelegate said. "All of us watch television all the time, read the newspapers. We all play with the little charts online too. We know it is virtually impossible."

    On Hillary's Tone

    one undeclared delegate, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the recent tactics are turning her and other superdelegates off.

    "I don't think anybody's saying 'step aside,' but 'stop with the garbage' is what people want to say," the delegate said. "Just chill a little bit."

    "We like the fact that there is a candidate that has won so many states overwhelmingly," the delegate said. "We're feeling her advisors are leading her in a path that diminishes her as well as him."

    On Judas

    Several said they were angered by comments from James Carville, who called Bill Richardson "Judas" for backing Obama after serving in the Clinton White House. One delegate said Richardson's rationale for supporting Obama, and his implicit frustration at the Clintons' heavy-handed approach to garnering his support, was echoed among superdelegates.

    On Stepping Forward to End the Race

    But some said they were increasingly in touch with Clinton campaign officials to say their support is in jeopardy.

    "Uncommitted delegates can come out and say, 'If you don't stop this now, we won't vote for you,'" one uncommitted superdelegate said.

    Yowzers... This has got to hurt, and it's got to get more attention... why is this on First Read and not in the NY Times as an Op-Ed? Superdelegates... we know what you feel now, We Know the Race is Over, and We're waiting.

    • who spoke on the condition of anonymity,
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    • you don't cross frank sinatra
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  • emecks0

    "200"

    Hilary "Clinton's missus" Clinton