Tribal DDB Suicide
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- Faction18
Top Chicago ad exec Paul Tilley, 40, dies apparently of suicide.
DDB creative executive who oversaw marquee accounts such as Dell, McDonald's:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/ne…
- Spookytim0
I sent him one of my promotional mailers yesterday. What a tragic waste.
I could have re-labelled it.
- Is that in bad taste I wonder.Spookytim
- Dunno. Let's see the mailer.JerseyRaindog
- For a minute there I thought I was going to be insensitive alone.Spookytim
- Hahahaha...erm...I mean shame on you!uncle_helv
- ian0
I was gonna link up that Bill Hicks speech about how marketing/advertising people should kill themselves, but restrained. Its is sad, especially for the family left behind wondering why it happened.
- Leigh0
onother creative director .......
http://www.thelondonpaper.com/cs…
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?packedargs=aid%3D11...Leigh - FAILx2mrbee2828
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- moth0
That is my old CD - by the by.
- i had to read that sun page more than once to be suremaximillion_
- dude, really sorry to hear that moth. my sentiments if it affected you dude.madirish
- which agency?Leigh
- maximillion_0
fuck me leigh that moths ex-CD
- Spookytim0
Here's my theory.
1. On a personal level
Its ultra high pressure. Everyone expects you to produce a succesful solution every time without fail... its not possible to do one project badly. You have to somehow be creatively at your best in avariety of scenarios and always under the same pressures2. On a philosophical level
You (we) are the people selling this planet into oblivion. The whole shitty mess we're in is the result of aspirational desire which is created by marketing and creative thinking, so you find yourself one day selling the world to hell in a matt black handbasket and you realise the position of responsibility to hold for the state of things.3. On a Financial level
You can't believe your luck when you hit pay dirt for the first time and immediately construct a lifestyle around yourself to reflect your status and opulence. Your due status and opulence always exceeds your actual wealth by 4 times so you go from being immeasurably rich to being seriously indebted within a year. You have so much to support then, so much to maintain, and your loving family expects this of you.You know you can't maintain point 01, and you know you're being chased by point 02, and you could give up and dave yourself but for the details of point three. You are trapped by expectation, by obligation, by pride so you reach for the emergency exit.
- chossy0
Bloody hell moth :/
So terrible that people find that their only solution in life must be to end it. Pain is sometimes unbearable.
- moth0
I like to think I'll pack my bags and walk the earth if I got that down about my lot.
I'd like to think I'd just run away...
- blaw0
The difference is, moth, that a lot of (most, even?) suicides occur when there is a underlying level of severe depression. Kinda rules out the option of a what-have-I-got-to-lose adventure.
Sorry to hear this hit so close to home for you.
- Spookytim0
I got off the corporate crack addiction before it overwhelmed me but I always found that the more money I earned, the more pressure I was put under and the less financially well off I was also. I reached a water margin with my salary beyond which i was always hopelessly in debt. I had a really good salary in my last ever job but...
I rented a flat in the middle of London that would be expensive for two people and paid it on my own, I drove a brand new car which I got on a ludicrous repayment scheme and I paid for stuff on credit cards and never ever managed my finances at all. The credit cards started as a work related thing (buying goods on work research trips) but rapidly got out of hand and became my sole source of finance when my monthly income was going straight out of my account to pay for my lavish lifestyle. So before I knew it I was horribly horribly in debt, yet I had this huge salary!
That's why I walked and just do what I do now. I'll never be rich like this, I know, but I wont ever be as fucked as I was back then.
- madirish0
“With the agent stood just a few feet away, he suddenly leapt on a ledge and through a window.”
holy hell....
- an artist loves the gesturecapsize
- he leaves two daughters without a father? Coward.capsize
- Wrong guy dude.moth
- wrong victim capsizemaximillion_
- always 1 step behind mike!maximillion_
- People intrinsically creative never do anything predominantly for money. People intrinsically business orientated rarely do anything for anything other than money. Advertising professes to marry both but 99.9% of the time this is impossible...all causing massive internal conflict.babaganush
- People intrinsically new to QBN always type more than side-notes can accomodate.Spookytim
- Faction180
I was really shocked by this - and now looking and the incident in the UK I am pretty disturbed. I am just hoping this isn't the start of some new "trend" - for lack of a better word. I definitely agree with Spookytim's points from above, and think that as a whole there does need to be some soul searching done for and by our industry. But suicide? I'm well aware of the pressure to perform in this field, but I wouldn't have thought that it would lead down this path.
- Spookytim0
Babaganush says:
People intrinsically creative never do anything predominantly for money. People intrinsically business orientated rarely do anything for anything other than money. Advertising professes to marry both but 99.9% of the time this is impossible...all causing massive internal conflict.And I'm putting it here becuase A) Its interesting and B) s/he'd tried to fit it all in a side note!
- ooopsbabaganush
- 4 lines maximum Babaganush. I reposted cuz it was worth reading, hope you don't mind.Spookytim
- Leigh0
wonder if this guy has done the same?
- I think so. That's why this thread interested me. Its seems 'creatives' are on the egde.Spookytim
- babaganush0
Unfortunately it seems basing your life on pursuing being 'creative' is inextricably linked to highs and lows...the most severe lows resulting in depression I guess. Continuously being creative, I guess means constantly needing new challenges, being original - therefore rare moments of prolonged satisfaction and stability.
- Spookytim0
Depression and self doubt. Times where I look at what I do and hate it so much I get close to tearing it all up and staring again with the metaphorical blank canvas. In fact i have done so twice in my life already, but now I have a child to support so can't do that again, otherwise right now I would be tearing Studiospooky down, burning all my bridges and walking into the unknown with nothing, just for the feeling of freedom and the removal of pressure that comes before the fear and new pressure kicks in.