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A manager from another department suggested that we divide up the web designers into two jobs; a graphic designer who lays out the web site and a css/html person who cuts it up and creates the site. This didn’t sound like a bad idea at first. I can see how this would speed up production and make the hiring process a bit simpler.
However, I feel this would remove a lot of the project ownership our designers currently get from coming with a design to seeing it thru to a working site. I think having a feeling of ownership on a project personally is quite rewarding and very important. Also it’s a perk of working in an internal creative department vs a design house where it is more fire and forget.
Sooo... I wanted to do a quick poll to see how some of the other creative departments out there were structured, more specifically web design groups but I am curious in general.
how big is your firm? like how many graphic designers are there. it sounds like a small shop, but what mentioned isn't all that uncommon among firms
designer does layout
production (html) cuts images
designer checks to see if the design still retains it original look/feel
production does changes along with designer
designer dances / production grumbles
designer gets called a pixel nazi or kaser
Currently we have 3 designers including myself managing about 50 - 60 web sites for the company.
However, I feel this would remove a lot of the project ownership our designers currently get from coming with a design to seeing it thru to a working site. I think having a feeling of ownership on a project personally is quite rewarding and very important.
(Oct 25 07, 06:34)
this is where you say to your manager, " i want more responsibility, i want to retain ownership on projects, i want to oversee work from start to finish. this also means i want a new job title, senior designer or art director. i also want a raise"
Heh MrD. That sounds about right. =P
I am in a decent sized firm. Designers carry it through to HTML/CSS and then hand it over to the developers who add it to the back end (mostly .net 2 + databases etc) and then the designer goes in and adds in any last updates to the css for unforeseen stuff and makes sure the developers are formatting forms etc in an intelligent way.
We dont have any special choppers though, the designers are expected to know html, css, standards compliance, SOE, actionscript (functions, loops, arrays etc) and have a basic knowledge of design related programming such as server side includes, skinning .net user controls and master pages etc.
yeah MrD hit nail on the head
Slappy... yeah that is kind of how we are set up currently. Designers see it through from layout to HTML/CSS and at the minimum be able to work around back end stuff. We use php here.
I don't think its such a bad thing to know how to design a solid front end, its not that much to learn.
I have had clients commission work from print designers and then come to me because they cant build the site but still want to use the design because they have already paid for it, then I have to tell them that in fact the design doesn't really work on the web because of screen res restrictions, too many over lapping elements etc.
If designers have a good understanding of how a front end should be built then they can design with the limitations of the web in mind. I think that having two roles is a bit of a waste of time. Get you print designers designing print and your screen designers designing for screens.
Just the way I feel about it.
Yeah Slappy I am with you. Since this is an internal creative department and all the stuff we work on is for the company, dividing it out doesn't seem necessary.
Plus it would reduce the amount of hassle you described with layouts and if the designer has to know the limitations its not a large step to doing the css.
I really get the feeling that dividing it up could potentially lead to higher turn over rates as well.
I think having a feeling of ownership on a project personally is quite rewarding and very important.
(Oct 25 07, 06:34)
could not agree less.
also, knowing what are strengths of a team is THE single most important part of any team. a great prodcution person is a beautiful thing...