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- ********0
"..rebel against their creator, choosing sin over his obedience to his loving commands. "
I do not have a 'creator', how I can to be is far more complex and wonderful than the anthropomorphic process akin to putting together furniture..
Obedience ? See above..
Life is far more richly lived by living to one's own set of beliefs rather then 'obeying' commands that have created by other people who then go on to say that they didnt write it - God did..
Nothing in any of the religious texts could not have been written by people, there is no revelation that 'proves' it is from a supra-human source.
If, in the bible, there was a passage that described, eg the behavior of a positron in a strong magnetic field, or even a description of a Lorenz attractor, I would have pause for thought that this knowledge was more than bread-and-butter human literature, but there is not. Not once. Please show me anywhere in the bible information that was not created by the writer that proves this is the case.I appreciate your appreciation of my honesty, and I swear not to cause offence but simply to make my points with the gusto I believe they deserve.
Flagellum, I have singly failed throughout all our discussions to provoke anything approaching anger or even bad manners from you, and for that you have a very deal of respect from me. You konw I willalways beleive you are wrong, but on a 10000 year trip to alpha centauri, you'd be great to have extended discussions with.
- mrdobolina0
it is all superstition, no different than the other religions you believe to be incorrect.
Why can't you guys understand that?
Flagellum, just out of curiousity, what state do you live in?
- BonSeff0
we're all gonna die and become plant food. then and there you will have all the proof you need in your beliefs. and it wont matter if you are right or wrong, because it will be to late to convince the living otherwise.. so what's the fucking point in trying to convince us now.
go on and read your articles and theories, believe what you want.
you'll never prove that you are right until its too late.
- gramme0
the reason we talk about our faith with those who are willing to listen is so that people can avoid becoming something worse than worm food. If you don't buy it, fine...but you should know that it is motivated by a desire for no one to be left behind. Not to shove anything down anyone's throat.
If your building was burning, you would do everything in your power to prevent the people you care about from being consumed by the fire, wouldn't you?
The big issue here, of course, is that most people don't recognize that the building is burning. That's why I prefer to take a gentler approach with talking about the Gospel than some.
- flagellum0
I never cease to be amazed that there are, otherwise intelligent people, who choose to believe that blind, unintelligent processes produced biology and cosmology, consciousness, will, emotions, and all of the information which steers all of it. It was trendy in the 19th century, but we are beyond that. We have new data.
In the beginning, there was information.
Period.
- BonSeff0
the building is fine, you guys just love yelling 'fire'
- ********0
I have determined that the concept of 'god' is not worthy of any investigation whatsoever.
With that said these threads are extremely entertaining.
- ********0
"we're all gonna die and become plant food"
Not me. I will be compressed into an industrial diamond and tossed into my favorite body of water.
- BonSeff0
sure flagellum
the earth is 4.5 years old and you guys have figured it all out
- gramme0
Not me. I will be compressed into an industrial diamond and tossed into my favorite body of water.
tonx
(Oct 25 07, 08:47)Seems as good a way to go as any. However, I think you would actually be considered cubic zirconia (sp.?)...which takes a bit of the romance out of it.
:)
- flagellum0
BonSeff, what in the world does the age of the earth have to do with it?
- ********0
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- BonSeff0
age of earth
in relationship to occupied by humans
and the claim humans have figured it out
= lol
- ********0
Bon the christians will not falter to logic.
- ********0
That was a shot just to keep the spirited debate going.
- ********0
Get off your Cross, I need the wood.
- gramme0
I'm tired. And I have deadlines.
Peace all.
- mrdobolina0
I'm out of the office until 3:30, get at me dog. ;)
- ********0
CRAP!
- mrdobolina0
meaning I am at home working on some freelance. if anyone wants to fight I am here for you.