client wants pantone color?
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- qruise
hi all. i do some logo work for local businesses, and i always work in Illustrator and provide CMYK & RGB copies of the logos. everyone is always happy with that. however, i have a new client and he wants me to provide the Pantone color number i use in the logo.. so now i'm confused. how am i supposed to know what the pantone color value is? what if my logo has more than one color in it? based on this clients question i feel like i need to provide the logo in some different color space. how should i go about creating this logo so i can do all this?
- hiten0
your a designer and have never used a pantone....WOW...
WOW....
anyways you can use a pantone colour book and match the colours by eye which is what would do...unless is a crazy multicoloured gradient filled thing, you can still do it it just takes more time.
- TheBlueOne0
I was really hoping the thread title was "client wants pants", but sadly it isn't.
It would have been magnificient.
- ********0
ive been working in this field for a while now and i also rent space from a design firm who also has a 2 color press in the back. anyways, it amazes me when new hires come through the door off college or the street and they have no idea about spot color, seperation, over printing, trapping, etc etc. its like they dont teach the students anything about real world printing. i was lucky that i had a job at a pres press business when i was in school and learned alot from it.
to answer the post, as stated above, you will need to loaad your pantone library in illustrator and replace every color to that swatch. i would suggest getting a pantone book, but they can be pricey, like over $100US. or you can visit a printer that you will be working with and they should let you use one while you figure out your colors.
- qruise0
um sorry ive never claimed to be a master. i just do local smalltime business stuff as a hobby, im not some sucker trying to steal teh fancy clients from all you hardened veterans. jesus.
- 5timuli0
http://www.code-line.com/softwar…
This little bit of software has a CMYK>Pantone conversion utility. Pretty useful but not always accurate. Always best to check with a Pantone swatch book.
- mpfree0
for some reason I thought you were going to say "client wants pants off"
- hiten0
WOW.
- mg330
I thought that about the pants too!
Oh, and colors SUCK! LOL
- stewart0
Oh, and colors SUCK! LOL
mg33
(Jan 17 07, 21:48)you're damn right.
i recently had a course in "colormanagment".
that's about CIE-LAB colors, ISO colorprofiles and softproofing in photoshop and certified proofing.damn complex, but also damn important to have your colors appearing predictable on different types of paper and different printers.
i really really wonder why i've never seen a word about that here on Newstoday.
- version30
i really really wonder why i've never seen a word about that here on Newstoday.
stewart
(Jan 17 07, 23:54)in todays world, proofing is too common to worry about predictions, just pay for the proofing and be certain
& to agree with hiten ¿WTF¡WOW!
& finally, if you're nice, flavorful built me something that may help you, but as you have not given any color numbers, i can't check and I won't let anyone use it w/o his permission
- Nairn0
There's a handy CMYK > Pantone convertor script on this page: http://www.wundes.com/js4ai/disp…
qruise - i can understand you feeling a bit stung by some of these comments, but really - Pantone references are one of the fundamentals of doing print work in any commercial capacity. They're nothing you need to fret over - just a standardised list of colour names, but you'll look quite green (P 583u) in front of your clients if you clearly don't know.
- milo0
qruise, you really need to be checking your colours with a newish (ie. not light faded) Pantone book/swatch..
Have you got a repro house
nearby? may pop in & ask if they have a pantone swatch book (they should have) that you can have a look at to compare colours. Most likely You'll need to be looking at coated & uncoated:
http://www.pantone.co.uk/pages/p…
Once you've chosen your colour you'll be able to find the corrisponding ref in ai/indesign.It'll save you a bit of worry, because you will know exactly what the finished colour will look like.
- aliceblue0
http://www.pantone.com/pages/pro…
this is my fav!
- material-10
I say 'fire the client'. the nerve!
- ********0
Hey there,
In Illustrator there is a way you can open up various pantone color sets (coated, uncoated etc). Coated i believe means it has a shine, uncoated is more muted... etc etc. The only way to accuratedly know how those colors will print is to purchase or get a hold of a Pantone Swatch book. In there you will see each color printed in a swatch as it will appear printed on your b-cards and what not.
Pantone colors are expensive to print, but if your client really wants that, all you really have to do is open up a pantone color set in Illustrator and replace your current CMYK colors with similar colors from the Pantone set. You might need to approximate some, but you shouldn't have too bad of a time doing that.
Any of this makes any sense?
- ross0
You must be real PANTONE 102. I think you need more time with your PANTONE 211 parts. all your peers will be PANTONE 361 with envy.
- Baskerville0
This annoys me, the client probably thinks they need a pantone.
If your logo it a nice blue colour then I can understand them wanting a pantone as blue and oranges are hard to print well on CMYK.
But say you've designed a logo that is 100% Magenta, then there's no need for a pantone, it's just a pointless extra expense. There are reasons for pantones, generally metallics, fluorescents etc. But using a pantone for sake of it is pretty silly.
I know CMYK can give different results on different stocks etc but the same is true for pantone too, so why worry that much about it.
- material-10
Am I on crack? It is much cheaper to print one or two pantone colors to print the logo rather than four colors to make the same color.
Now if youre using four color process plus spot colors, like for a brochure, that is pricey.
It really depends what the final product is.
- Baskerville0
Most of the time you are printing in 4 colour, when using photos etc.
If your client always specifies a pantone for their logo then that's a pointless expense.that's what I was talking about.