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- rafalski
I have installed Vista RC1 on my macbook. I kind of hoped it would bring something new in terms of ui, meaning "steal what's good from osx", but it's so bad I don't even feel like installing any software on it. It is old windows 2000/xp, but with messed ui and gazillion security warnings - you feel like you're being forced into War On Viruses. Shit, why must using a computer have to keep my adrenaline level high?
This brings me to the question: why don't they have any decent competition?
Obviously, there is OSX, probably the best system out there, but sadly I can't count it as it is strictly limited to apple hardware. It can be used as a good reference though.
There are various flavours of linuxes that are good candidates, but none seems to address the most important issue: user experience. Everyone keeps saying those still are made by nerds for nerds.
I was just wondering, why hardly anybody, rich or poor, is trying to create something along the lines of osx. I mean, to start with an unix-ish system and build something user oriented on top of it. Nobody wants a slice of one of the biggest cakes on the planet?
Is this really that hard to do? If a bunch of open-sourcers with some funding can develop things like firefox or open office, it shouldn't be so hard to make an os, especially with linux-unix engines floating around. Am I right?I heard google OS rumours couple of months ago, they must be up to something..
Anyay, expect more of those:
http://www.dailytechnobabble.com…
- lvl_130
what do you mean old windows 2000/xp?
you have a choice? i use both osx and xp everyday. they both have their pluses and minuses in my opinion, but i don't really feel the "messed ui and gazillion security warnings "
- PonyBoy0
rafalski... I hear you, man...
... I doubt we'll ever see an OS that Software dev's will really focus on outside of the proprietary stuff such as OSX and Windows...
... as there isn't much money in such an undertaking.
I'm sure we'll plenty of OS's that folks attempt to create... but I highly doubt Soft dev's will create for it if 'the masses' aren't on it.
Look at these stats... Windows literally pwns everyone's attempt at an OS...
http://www.w3schools.com/browser…
... what the world needs is a 'minority' that can somehow 'feel' like a majority to push the world to accept a new OS.
- rafalski0
lvl, I mean that vista is 2000 rebranded again, only more overweight and with more make-up.
New fonts are nice, I must admit. I use OSX and XP daily as well, but something tells me Vista is not going to be as huge as XP was when it premiered and this would be a great opportunity for competition to sneak in. But there isn't any..
"Gazillion warnings" referred to my Vista experience.
Why cannot someone make a linux version that is as user friendly as osx? That would shake the market..
- rafalski0
PonyBoy, firefox gets bigger and bigger share.. I am sure a corresponding, user friendly and well defined and visually designed version of linux could crawl its way up as well. I mean, a paid os, something like osx for the masses.
Isn't there any money in it?So far I have yet to see an X-windows skin that doesn't smell nerdy.
- ninjasavant0
I'm pretty sure the google os is a dead stick.
Have you checked out Ubuntu? My friend uses it and even I can figure it out:
- ********0
vista schmista
- welded0
I just had a really long and, I thought, somewhat intelligent response typed out as to how I feel your pain, but that you're being totally naive about what it would take to undo Microsoft's mess when my pretty OSX locked up for the first of no doubt many time tonight and I don't want to type it all again. I hate this fucking PowerBook.
You heard me, PowerBook. FUCK YOU!
- quamb0
creating an OS would be a far bigger undertaking then something that simply renders html/css right?
plus the hurdles of actually having anyone create apps for your OS... perhaps the best solution would be a really easy to use, and user friendly linux OS, though am sure there are many geeks who say there already is such out there.
- ninjasavant0
linux, the libertarians of the os race
- TheBlueOne0
I already decided that I won't be moving to Vista, and when MS stops support for XP I buy my first mac...
- rafalski0
I should try ubuntu over parallels soon, but to be honest, I don't believe a strong competitor would raise directly from opensource community. It could start from opensource, but there's got to be money in it. Now that osx runs on intel, releasing it for non-apple machines would turn the market upside down and we know it. But it will not happen. So why can't someone invest half a billion in making a linux as cool as osx and claiming the market?
I hear CS3 is being rewritten to be intel-osx optimized. Is it a step that could lead towards porting it to other systems someday?..
- ********0
probably a very stupid question, but what the comparison of eg front side bus speeds with the great fat T1 pipes that we'll all have real soon - makes the concept of having all your data/os/files remotely on some factory sized, quadrupally redundant quantum computing grid matrix, and pull the blisteringly hot data down to your very thin client when you need it....kind of like a high speed render farm.
I sure would appreciate a few thousand, 100,000's Teraflops at my disposal when trying to render some tricky 3d stuff..
Microsoft would not be the people to package and brand this, by then it will be Globex (tm), the business front of the 1 world govt.,.heh..
Operating systems could be chosen like, or rather AS tv channels...all your data, all your software, everywhere at once, from any terminal or remote hand-type device...
doesnt that make more sense ?
- rafalski0
this is probably where google's going towards, mikotondria..
http://hardware.slashdot.org/art…
- quamb0
miko - makes sense for sure.
you have your calendar, mail, documents, media etc all somewhere in some database- and can pull it up anywhere under an OS of choice.
will happen, if not already - just years away from being fast, easy and mass market.
- acescence0
as an aside, i just installed ubuntu on an old G4 tower and now have a fully functional LAMP server in less than an hour frm an otherwise garbage machine
also- check out knoppix. full linux system that boots off a CD or DVD. take your whole system with you to different computers.
- toastie0
i use ubuntu linux both at work and at home for 99% of my work (flash development) and i love it. I've used windows for years and OSX for a long time after that, but nothing ever compared in usability to linux for me. Sure things are broken here and there, but it's an ongoing project and should be taken as such. And in the past year, with the new XGL extensions, it's been slowly becoming the prettiest OS as well.
- tkmeister0
ubuntu looks pretty good. can i install on a MBP and have that boot as one of the boot up option?
- orkman0
Vista will be a big jump for XP folks, not so big for OSX folks.
I use OSX and XP everyday as well, and some things I like doing better on PC (3D and Flash).
- acescence0
ubuntu looks pretty good. can i install on a MBP and have that boot as one of the boot up option?
tkmeister
(Nov 10 06, 15:25)yes