No-Spec!
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- chz
Spawned from a previous thread.
We as a community of designers need to put an end to all spec work, and only we can do so.
Our industry is already de-valued enough as it is, we don't need to add more fuel to the fire but instead stomp it out.
Please support No-Spec...
- PonyBoy0
*shows support!
- Teeuwen0
*shows penis
- Teeuwen0
*support i mean
sorry
i is drunk a bit
- PonyBoy0
*looks for penis
Teeuwen
(Aug 24 06, 18:31)
- horton0
bookmarked for educating a few clients.
thx.
- version30
you know this is how things are done now right? contests to spark creativity only to have the payout be your 7.2 seconds of interfame
tv shows have been accepting free content for pennies over several years
just look at americas funniest home videos all the way to comedy centrals contest for the next next internet show on their site
fans clamour to give away content
- dirtydesign0
Arent the snowboard designs on your site spec???
- e-pill0
link?
- dirtydesign0
No link...but under print, Monson snowboard design contest.
- e-pill0
who's?
- dirtydesign0
The hump who posted this...
http://chriszawada.com/
- lvl_130
no offense, and i don't really condone spec work per say, but to be perfectly honest, "spec work" such as the monson snowboard contest, is really just an outlet for many designers to have all-out creative freedom to create something that they love...doing something that they love to do...on their own time. no gun to the head saying you have to do this. no client saying make the type bigger. no boundaries.
if people want to participate in this so called "spec work" then let them. what does it matter to you? YOU are really only as undervalued as YOU think you are. everyone else is just having fun, regardless if they get paid for it or not.
my 2 cents
- republik80
You will never "stamp" it out, and besides the creative freedom that often comes with such projects is welcomed.
- northern0
There are always going to be clients that ask for spec work and designers/agencies that will produce it. It's just a matter of deciding if the investment is worth the prize.
- blastofv0
well those last few posts are pretty defeatist
you guys really think it's fine the way it is now? good for the industry?
shouldn't the personal art and the professional design projects be separate efforts?
- kelpie0
surely this would be more to do with agencies pitching for proper work than a guy holding a competition to design some snowboards, no?
- chz0
dirtydesign, do you enjoy spec work?
Yes the Monson designs were done on spec many years ago, and yes I have done spec work in the past... I'm sure we all have at one point or another. The Monson designs were my turning point as I was promised more than I got, it wasn't worth the time I invested.
Will I do spec work again?... no. If you don't support the idea that's cool... go about doing more spec work and cheapen yourself even more.
I should have known a legitimate cause would get shit on here.
- dirtydesign0
I do spec work to break away from the monotony of my day to day, client requested bullshit. Spec work allows me to actually be creative and do something that I like.
- horton0
sorry but i had to stir the pot and bump this for another day... didn't have a chance to get reply last night.
why does everyone think designing youth culture stuff (like snowboards) is this ultimate creative luxury, and worth doing for free? never understood this.
the snowboard industry is HUGE.. like mega million$ every year. so why the hell should companies not be paying LARGE for the #1 selling feature of every board on the shelf; the topsheet artwork. they pay their teams huge salaries, simply because these guys are confident, know their worth and demand it.
and don't kid yourself, these companies know exactly what they're up to.. which is basically getting custom artwork and reprint rights for free, something that they were paying a lot of money for just a couple years ago. wtf is that?
design contests are a horrible nasty trend.. making our profession cheap.
- BANTER0
Well said Tim!
Only we can change the way things are, I'm suprised that more designers don't feel the same way.