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I was talking with a guy over Christmas that is doing a thesis on the "Clean Slate" cities that China is going to be building to compensate the displacement of all their people they moved for the construction of that dam.
It's an opportunity to redefine the way we look at transportation. It should be rather interesting to see how they go about it. Hopefully they'll do with with a green mind, and that the rest of the world will take cues from them in regards to their own cities continues growth. Our city structures need to change if we want to combat global warming with our current technologies.
- ********0
the power/energy/cost of that change and its complexity is not something one can expect in the next decades.
as a quick measures are needed, it's easier for people to change, and reduce comsumption: e.g. work from home 2-3 days per week, create new workflows, etc. You can't help having people using power to lit and warm their houses, but you can stop a lot of fuel burning if a large number of people stops driving their cars to/from work.
most cities have now business areas and residencial areas. That can be changed too if the spaces most people inhabit can have multiple functionality, preventing energy production and waste.
- lemmys_wart0
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i'm thinking this is just like the evolution deabte...
evidence just doesn't matter to the disbelivers.
by it's very nature the "conservative" mind seems to lack the ability to adapt.
...it's like nations turn conservative due to fear (of niggers, terrorism, jews, etc).
they look for stong men and the old stability.
now, i really don't buy into modern liberal thought, (say the idea that goverment can help individuals more than themselves) but an adaptive philosophy (progressive) is so much more valuable now....
look at how fast technonoghy is changing the world alone...
now add the comming chaos of climate change...
do you want some rigid old man "staying the course" with your civilization?
- flagellum0
Lemming: The "evolution" debate is about two interpretations of the same evidence. Not disbelieving the evidence.
- mrdobolina0
you didnt even listen to what he said about why people flock to that way of thinking.
- flagellum0
The issue for me with global warming is not whether or not it's happening, but rather whether or not humans have anything to do with it. It seems that direct evidence is lacking with regard to the human impact (though time will tell) and that it could be a cyclical process that the earth goes through every several thousand years.
- mrdobolina0
keep playing that hand.
- flagellum0
Is it unreasonable to posit? We seem to have had ice ages and the like so there certainly is evidence that the earth has had extreme temperature variations.
Forgive me if I'm automatically skeptical of notions so fervently promoted by the left with seemingly very little critical analysis. It just kinda sends up a red flag with me.
- mpfree0
...but rather whether or not humans have anything to do with it. It seems that direct evidence is lacking with regard to the human impact (though time will tell) and that it could be a cyclical process that the earth goes through every several thousand years.
flagellum
(Jan 17 07, 05:59)+1
- lowimpakt0
someone who believes in voodoo lecturing about science?
- flagellum0
Who believes in voodoo? And who's lecturing? mrdobolina?
- lowimpakt0
voooooodooooooo
- mrdobolina0
the fact that you automatically equate it with "the left" is awfully telling.
- flagellum0
Didn't "equate" "it" with the left. I said that the left seems to me to be uncritically co-opting Global Warming as a political ploy.
What is "telling" about that?
- mpfree0
Who believes in voodoo? And who's lecturing? mrdobolina?
flagellum
(Jan 17 07, 06:29)Hey flagellum, mrdobolina reminds me of one of those really bad singers on American Idol. You know the type. Delusional, thinking that they actually can sing but in reality can't. That's his way of thinking and his science. Generalized assumptions are key there.
- mrdobolina0
are you familiar with the term "biostitute"?
Why, if co2 emissions have nothing to do with climate change does exxon pay scientists to muddy up the argument?
- mrdobolina0
everyone thinks jazx is a dickhead except for kona, and I am delusional?
haha, sad little man.
- mpfree0
Ahhhh, he must of posted. The thread got bumped but he's on ignore.
ha ha haha
- lowimpakt0
seemingly very little critical analysis.
flagellum
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