CMS for retards
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- ldww0
that ajax one is ok.
i do not think its completly nessecary to have a ajax admin thou, i mean what would it really hurt to refresh the page when you click save?
- lw-d0
If I were going to buy a commercial CMS then there are a few things that I would like to know:
Is the source code editalbe, some protect there code, this means that any further development needed with the CMS would not be possible. One of the big advantages with Open Source CMS' such as http://www.joomla.org is that you can edit the code.
- lw-d0
I think joomla is pretty good, its the only one I have used extensively, along with mambo in the day.
I am looking for other OS CMS' that can output tableless designs that validate.
I am going to try plone and typo3 today.
Thanks.
- lw-d0
I personally think that contribute is a little bit of light weight compared to a CMS. First of, you need to physically install contribute on people machine. For the companies that I work for, they don't want to get their hands dirty with the software. With a CMS they just login to the sites frontend and edit away.
- lw-d0
- madirish0
They are only human and do not know how to use GoLive or Dreamweaver, nor should they have to learn.
fifty50
(Mar 21 06, 08:32)fifty, i just re-read this and i really want to stress that a CMS will not magically make the clients life easier or releave them of considerations or tasks. on the contrary, a CMS actually will give them more to complete and will absolutly require training at some level to use it effectively. they trade off to this though, is empowering the client to control any content the CMS drives themselves w/o the need for code or scripting language knowledge.
i cannot stress enough (and i have been through this countless times) that really determining the clients' needs and motives, along with understanding "what" a CMS is really all about is probably 99% of how successful the results will be. seems as though several here are kind of short of that front and technology might be the driving force in "the best solution", rather than needs.
- ldww0
check out super simple cms:
http://www.supersimple.org/
i have not tried it but head good things.i normally just write my own, i would rather make something whcih will do exactly what i want rather then retrofit an excisting solution.
- lw-d0
Heard good things about plone, heard that it also outputs CSS based layouts not tables.
I use joomla! one thing that lets it down is that it outputs tables.
- imakedesign0
there are loads of threads about this, search for CMS
- madirish0
yes, Plone is 100% standards compliant and completly style sheet driven.
joomla is nice, but it is far from anything standards-focused and pretty incestuous. this is also true of it's core developers and their move to break away from Mambo.
the other overwhelming factor that sets Plone appart from ~ 95% of CMS frameworks out there is that it is a full-blown application server on top of an object-oriented data model as opposed to a dynmaic markupp pulling/writing data to a relational one.
- PuFFi0
My preference goes for typo3, but it's just that you need a lot of time to get used to it. It's so complicated.
This is why I'd recommend joomla, or the same kind, http://www.limbo-cms.com that can run with sqlite.
- lw-d0
... full-blown application server....
Wish I knew what that meant. Anyway, I am probably now looing for commercial solutions, they only reason for this is so that I can sell on the CMS to my clients. I also want something which I can edit. I know a little coding, I want access to the core files like OS solutions.
I want to be able to offer a rebranded version of the CMS I buy. I am not even sure if any commercial CMS' out there will let me do this.
- garettwest0
dont say retard, retard.
- not_lebowski0
what about retards for cms?
- ldww0
you may want to refphrase yourself and say "sell my service installing and configuring them" i do not think places where you buy a cms from would want you reselling it, or even an os cms being sold.
- PuFFi0
If you have time and a lot of courage http://www.typo3.org
there are some to try http://www.opensourcecms.com
the easiest way is http://www.joomla.org
- madirish0
you will not find a proprietary CMS solution that will allow you to re-sell it. besides the uselessness of this, you will not have access to any of the source code, so it is not customizable.
as far as Plone and OS, it is 100%. and i thought you were a developer when i posted that solution and subsequest follow up. you most certaily will need to "know how to code a little" to impliment Plone and mod it. specifically Python and ZOPE.
and ldww, you certainly can re-sell an OS solution. i would think it will only benefit you and your client to tell them what technology they are getting themselves into, but this is done very frequently. especially when you customize and strip out unwanted functionality of the OS core.
- determinedmoth0
I checked out contribute the other day and that might be the option!
idiot proof.
- determinedmoth0
check out the 30 day trial.
it doesn't allow for adding sections and new pages really...