CMS for retards
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- fifty50
Hey I got a job offer to take a company's existing site and implement a content management system so that they could easily change text and images on their own without needing to hire an in-house designer. They are only human and do not know how to use GoLive or Dreamweaver, nor should they have to learn.
What would be perfect is a CMS on their site so that they can login and see their website with the option to just click on a picture to change it, or click on text to just type something new, kind of like the way they handle text on Flickr.
Anyone know of something ultra-simple but as powerful as that?
- determinedmoth0
I checked out contribute the other day and that might be the option!
idiot proof.
- determinedmoth0
check out the 30 day trial.
it doesn't allow for adding sections and new pages really...
- johndiggity0
check out expression engine: http://www.pmachine.com
- fifty500
That ExpressionEngine looks pretty decent. only 250 for the commercial license, not bad at all! Have you used it before?
The thing is that this client has a friggin' HUGE site and it's tables-based. I'mm wondering how long it would take to install EE and how easy it would be to get it running just like their old site.
- johndiggity0
my friend just started working for a cms firm and they were actually considering buying the company, so that's a pretty good endorsement.
i personally have not used it, but i can get you some moe specific feedback if you need it.
the trial is free though.
- fifty500
Thanks johndiggity. could you email me the details when you find out? I need to know how much work it would be to do this so it's kind of important that I find out if I have to re-code the site, or if I will be building a new one from scratch and moving over all the content.
- lw-d0
If I were going to buy a commercial CMS then there are a few things that I would like to know:
Is the source code editalbe, some protect there code, this means that any further development needed with the CMS would not be possible. One of the big advantages with Open Source CMS' such as http://www.joomla.org is that you can edit the code.
- ldww0
check out super simple cms:
http://www.supersimple.org/
i have not tried it but head good things.i normally just write my own, i would rather make something whcih will do exactly what i want rather then retrofit an excisting solution.
- lw-d0
Heard good things about plone, heard that it also outputs CSS based layouts not tables.
I use joomla! one thing that lets it down is that it outputs tables.
- madirish0
yes, Plone is 100% standards compliant and completly style sheet driven.
joomla is nice, but it is far from anything standards-focused and pretty incestuous. this is also true of it's core developers and their move to break away from Mambo.
the other overwhelming factor that sets Plone appart from ~ 95% of CMS frameworks out there is that it is a full-blown application server on top of an object-oriented data model as opposed to a dynmaic markupp pulling/writing data to a relational one.
- lw-d0
... full-blown application server....
Wish I knew what that meant. Anyway, I am probably now looing for commercial solutions, they only reason for this is so that I can sell on the CMS to my clients. I also want something which I can edit. I know a little coding, I want access to the core files like OS solutions.
I want to be able to offer a rebranded version of the CMS I buy. I am not even sure if any commercial CMS' out there will let me do this.
- garettwest0
dont say retard, retard.
- not_lebowski0
what about retards for cms?
- ldww0
you may want to refphrase yourself and say "sell my service installing and configuring them" i do not think places where you buy a cms from would want you reselling it, or even an os cms being sold.
- madirish0
you will not find a proprietary CMS solution that will allow you to re-sell it. besides the uselessness of this, you will not have access to any of the source code, so it is not customizable.
as far as Plone and OS, it is 100%. and i thought you were a developer when i posted that solution and subsequest follow up. you most certaily will need to "know how to code a little" to impliment Plone and mod it. specifically Python and ZOPE.
and ldww, you certainly can re-sell an OS solution. i would think it will only benefit you and your client to tell them what technology they are getting themselves into, but this is done very frequently. especially when you customize and strip out unwanted functionality of the OS core.
- lw-d0
Finding my feet in the programming world, I have used joomla for about 18 months, I do get it 100% how I want it.
I own a web company and I would like to offer something like:
mycompany-CMS, a lot of web design companies are selling their CMS, I would like to buy a solutions that I could sell, obviousl, my clients would mainly be paying for the design, layout etc. Packaging the CMS as my own will just be a marketing idea. Clients like CMS when they are packaged in a wooly coat.... or something like that.
- lw-d0
I like the sound of http://www.pmachine.com
If you purchase a commercial license, is that for one domain name?
Thanks
- ldww0
oh ok, i did not realzie you could resell os. i thought the whole premise of it was that people were doing it for free "for the community".
is there a working demo is Plone? i can not seem to find one on the site.