web standards
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- imakedesign
i have been looking into web standards, trying to update my skills, and although i appreciate all the advantages i cant understand why people get so worked up about it.. take this guy for example:
http://blog.fawny.org/2006/01/04…
his site validates, but it looks terrible and is barely legible..
- ********0
Because it's easier to code in a set language than to apply creative design?
- imakedesign0
nice link :-)
- jamble0
I do agree with Shaun Inman in the comments that standards are important but I see so many shit awful sites these days that have the little w3c buttons on them but no design appeal what so ever!
I think like everything, just strike a balance. Code properly and it will function better and be easier to work with and update but don't sacrifice design time just for those little validation buttons!
- UndoUndo0
i'm not saying this is great, but its compliant and validates
- imakedesign0
I see so many shit awful sites these days that have the little w3c buttons on them but no design appeal what so ever!
jamble
(Jan 13 06, 02:13)
--------------------------------so true, like the average user gives a damn about that little button.
i think this site strikes the pefect balance:
the problem i have with validation is when you are using a CMS is very hard to control the code it outputs..
- jamble0
It's definitely something that can go either way ...
I love this site, it's clean, information nicely presented and well styled: http://www.advice-landforsale.co…
This on the other hand is a group of "experts" who've managed to make a simply awful looking site imho: http://www.clearleft.com/
- poomoo0
an engineer follows set standards and conforms to those standard when they work.
why would you be any different?
it is not difficult to conform to web standards.
http://www.edfilmfest.org.uk/
http://www.bankofscotland.co.uk/…those are just 2 sites to name a few that a well designed while conforming to standards.
- kev_charlton0
Reading a good book at the mo by Jeffrey Zeldman - 'Designing with Web Standards'. Is worth a read for anyone looking to get into it. And yes if you can strike a balance between nice design and good code you're onto a good thing.
- ********0
take this guy for example:
blog.fawny.org/2006/01...
his site validates, but it looks terrible and is barely legible..
imakedesign
(Jan 13 06, 01:52)Aye, he's a proper fawny right enough.
- kelpie0
"so true, like the average user gives a damn about that little button."
it's not about the button!
- nRIK0
designers are just stuck in their old ways of developing a website, its easier to use a table for a layout because they know how and know it would look relatively the same across different browsers/platforms...
but now with xhtml/css standards, its possible to do the same thing, or even better, with add'l benefits of seperated style from content...
not all standards compliant sites have to be shitty looking...
good designer + good developer = aesthetic standards compliant websites
- poomoo0
i dont knwo where this link came from - i found it in one of my tabs...
but this is a brilliant example of a very good designed site built using standards compliant code;