Helvetica
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- xenicon0
typeface for esperanto?
- neue75_bold0
I am Jaline
- Rand0
I destroy everything I touch
- winter0
winter, that was a load of old wanky guff.
kelpie
(Jan 12 06, 02:43)
-----------------------------sorry, i keep forgetting that you must act like a designer here.
- DavidFelt0
if you have a choice, go for berthold every time surely?
- mr_snuggles0
there's none left, I used it all...
- kelpie0
winter, that was a load of old wanky guff.
- TheTick0
I want to like DIN but it gets on my nerves...
- doesnotexist0
i hate the helvetica r.
but it is a pretty solid typeface. DIN is a close second.
- winter0
I had to put it out of my bursting breast aka no-boobies anyway.
- Milan0
LOL!
- TheTick0
Helvetica is the new Helvetica Neue
- Milan0
Nobody complained about the letter "R" in helvetica?
- winter0
sorry for this most extensive post:
Someone above complained about the helv "r"... It really feels funny when single, but it renders strangely happy and eternal when in couple. Just like any mortal thing. Just like any man.
Ihmo, Helvetica is not one of the greatest typefaces by accident nor is this phenomenon widely known as "design-hype" fancy, rooted on the accessibility of vector computing by everyone, responsible for its popularity. It's something bigger than that.
Like the first printable Romans up to Bodoni, Garamond, Modern nº20, Times, at their given epoch, Helvetica was carved out from european state-of-the-art exquisiteness about the sense of an universal speech in a given time, and graphically expresses western culture in relation to our semantic purpose: that is, our technological position towards words and meaning.
In order for a new (so grand) typeface to appear we need to change our ways interely, that which hasn't happen yet. We haven't yet evolved from our bafflement and belief in technology, that the Helvetica typeface expresses so widely.
For a period in my approach to graphic things, I thought Isonorm or Gridnick could express that change towards an highly technological-driven society, but as our post-modern condition (that which could be defined as a culture that deals with knowledge around indexes, categories, but has not a clear mainstream - which we still do) is heavily discussed amongst the most avant-garde philosophers as being a REAL cultural state or condition of our time.
In other words, most of present day researchers and philosophers still doubt that we (western people) really are a conglomerate of different highly categorical beings living together, with no link to each other but the work/link itself, with no community liaisons).
Everyone, like you and me, can doubt that in a pretty clear way.
That doubt is given by the sense that we (we, as a knowledge thing) somehow always feel connected and belonging to something and to each other. That thought, that feeling, invalidates the Post-Modern condition itself; that is: we, humans, can never go further that an group of people that gets around given whatever interest, which gives the possibility of secluded high-tech driven persons naught.
So, and this is the baseline, in order to create such another expressive typeface that expresses all of the present time, we really need to be something different than we are now. Somehow, one of these days, we will feel that Helvetica doesn't fit anymore, and some genius (someone that reads the whole thing) will get some new brilliant typeface rolling around.
He, or she, who can do it, must be some different person from what we all are now
Thank you for reading my opinion for so long.
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- monNom0
Helvetica Neue is the new helvetica.
- TheTick0
At least you know it wasnt designed by pirates: They couldnt come up with a decent 'R' between them..
mikotondria2
(Jan 11 06, 15:50)
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That was bad.*shakes head in disgust. leaves thread mumbling "arrrggghh" under breath
- digilee0
http://z6.co.uk/2006/01/books.ht…
scroll down ... you'll see it in red.
- RedFoxxworth0
Avant garde is the new helvetica.
- mikotondria20
At least you know it wasnt designed by pirates: They couldnt come up with a decent 'R' between them..
- TheTick0
It's almost as if Helvetica was intelligently designed...
*ducks out of thread...