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- AlsoKnownAs0
I think the problem is our overexposure to design...
We've all seen too much.
Very few things can impress like they used to (in the 'old' days when we only had design books for reference).
With the web we can see how new styles variations pop-up, spread and get wrung out within just a few months.
Once you've seen that happen enough times, it all starts to get predictable and boring.
- akzidentist0
stop thinking about typography and structure when doing your design.
it's all about the *idea*
------not true. it´s all about function. if you got an idea, make a sculpture or write a poem.
- fresnobob0
Stop thinking "web" when your doing web. It' s all about typorgaphy and structure.
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not true. it´s all about function. if you got an idea, make a sculpture or write a poem.
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Graphic design can exist completley independently of typography and structure, and it always must have an idea. If there is no idea, then there is no intention to communicate, so therefore something is no longer graphic design becuse it has lost what inherently seperates it from 'art'( or whatever you want to call it). This could possilby be called function, but your psuedo-modernist ideals will get only get you to a certain point and therefore are obsolete.
- forcetwelve0
good point AKA.
if we didnt see what people had done the minute it was done via the internet we may have to sort for our own direction more.interesting.
- AlsoKnownAs0
Yep, very good way of putting it, F12.
But even the good work doesn't impressive anymore because we're so used to seeing so much it.
I remember spending hours pouring over a single design book, absorbing as much inspiration as possible.
That just doesn't happen very much anymore.
Then again, could just be me.
- ********0
be the ball
kyl3
(Nov 9 05, 14:36)Hahaha.
..send him home. I just send him home. Time to go home there, ball. Son of a bitch ball! Why didn't you just go HOME! ARE YOU TOO GOOD FOR YOUR HOME?! ANSWER ME!!
- akzidentist0
Graphic design can exist completley independently of typography and structure, and it always must have an idea. If there is no idea, then there is no intention to communicate, so therefore something is no longer graphic design becuse it has lost what inherently seperates it from 'art'( or whatever you want to call it). This could possilby be called function, but your psuedo-modernist ideals will get only get you to a certain point and therefore are obsolete.
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You could brake it all down to filosophy if you want.
Of course you have to have a visual idea. but you have to start somewhere. when you start to build a website, where do you start? with the content. information, text, photographs, illustrations, or a concept. the design can never be the content. it´s the grid that holds the content, the space that is between the content, or words expressed thrue letters, typography.Could you show me an example of graphic design without typography or structure? I´m not saying that to put you down, I am curious.
- MrT0
wedgehead's orig point is a good one, but if it only were as simple as 'go and do something groundbreaking.'
The web's too fluid as a creative outlet/medium to have any definite ground to break, isn't it?
All to often "groundbreaking" means "the first to use Flash v[whatever] in an exciting way".
And often the fundamentals of graphic design; good typography, balance, are overlooked despite how wonderful people think it is.
IMHO.