InDesign CS2 = strange
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- s_t_e_w
something strange occurs using InDesign CS2
i have this page with an image, and the image transparency set to 50%. all dark colors are getting soft. when i set the image transparency back to 100% or remove the image, the colors are normal again.
screenshot:
strange eh...
- jg_20
yup, this is strange
i will ask my coworkers...
- Rand0
the only thing I can imagine is, is it possible you have grouped all othe other elements and set them to 50% transparency by mistake?
- Gucci0
it will do that if your image is RGB, and what's underneath is CMYK, or vice versa. It def. has something to do with colour conversion, and how ID handles it.
- honeydesign0
you know what- that's happened to me too and it's pretty annoying... it screws me uP!
- madirish0
ok, this is a long-shot in a way, but i will ask.
when you imported/placed the image in the file, did you have any other element selected? specifically, say an area (that could be without a fill or a fill of nothing) that is the entire page size? if so, then that one image you think you are adjusting, is really adjusting the tonal quality to the entire page via the larger are it is "linked to", or whatever.
i had this happen w/ CS1 inDesign and a large project i was working on. it was not the entire page, but it did make one area do something similar to what you are showing.
good luck and i will love to hear the answer if you find out.
- s_t_e_w0
addition:
not only the color is changing, also the way fonts are displayed.
fonts are displayed more bold and rough when there's an image at 50% transparency on the same page.
- Gucci0
yeah man... it's because it's rasterizing the type and the image it sits on. if the image you're making a transparency is sitting on top of that WHOLE box, it'll rasterize the WHOLE thing.
break the box up to sit ONLY on a section of that blue bar and you might have more successWhenever you rasterize something (ie: a glow, a transparency), it'll rasterize whatever's underneath it so it displays correctly when you print.
check the quality of your rasterization settings and your colour space settings too.
ID has huge colour setting issues
- s_t_e_w0
when i set the view>proof from
Document CMYK to
Workspace CMYK Eur ISO coated
the colors stay like they should when i set an image to 50%i've read all the adobe colormanagement manuals but i still don't get it for even 5%.
sheeez.
- radar0
are you laying out a website in InDesign?
- Gucci0
it can be comlicated... i had trouble like that when i imported a pic in CS1 and only realized (WWAAAAAY later), the cmyk was out of gamut and I had to recreate a whole project.
just remember to stay away from layers of shit - one on top of the other - if you're using transparencies. it'll save you headaches
- jaylarson0
This may have a much more simple answer than you've thought. Are the text and the image on the same LAYER? I had the same problem and fixed it with differing layers.
- s_t_e_w0
"are you laying out a website in InDesign?
radar
(Oct 28 05, 07:52)"so what.
tell me how you're laying out a website.you can set the document up in 100% pixel size (okay: points, but that's the same)
+ you can quickly add a new page to make changes in your design and save the old one in the same document
+ using rgb colors
+ rulers
+ grid
+ filters etc etc.
( // okay, i agree: the "export to html" function in InDesign should be implemented in the next version).now, what would your suggestion be?
- madirish0
illustrator
freehand
flash
photoshop
or any other app designed for something other than print.and points are not the same as pixels...
- madirish0
you know what?- fuck that.
use whatever you want. i am being completly hipocritical to call myself a creative and then say you should only use a list of pre-approved softwares to do what you do best.
i wish there were time still for myself to go back and use the photcopier or sketch book w/ acrylic paints, or collage to creat sites. i bet if designers and studios did more of this, there would be a whole slew of fresh awesome work out there.
sorry man for that last comment. it was uncalled for.
- s_t_e_w0
hah madirish.
well, a point on my computerscreen turns out to be exactly one pixel on my screen ;)
and in illustrator and photoshop you can't add pages to make variations on your design quickly.
and yes, i'd like to design websites again using analog papers like i did when i studied graphic design.
but these days you have to design a website for the government in about one day, so i had to find the easiest way to do that. and it turned out to be InDesign.but now i'm at home, and going to design a print for my big white wall with real paint.
cheers!
- madirish0
cool.
you know, you can add "layers" in all those applications as well...
and not sure what size projects you are working on, but having different files for all design templates is usually a VERY good idea.