Faith Schools
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- fate_0
Moral absolutes? Are you /really/ preaching to us about the noble unwillingness to change your opinion when faced with different facts and situations?
Of course you are. :)
- discipler0
It's one thing to teach a child that there is a belief system which advocates blurring the line between right and wrong. It's another thing to teach them to embrace that belief system.
- fate_0
Discipler, it's not dumbed down. It's distilled to the real-world essence. I like to think about things in terms of reality.
The ability to prosper in life, to become succesful and to procreate absolutely depends on social darwinism. It is survival of the fittest. You deny it because you deny darwin.
- discipler0
you can misinterpret me and put words in my mouth all day long, if that suits you, _fate. :)
- fate_0
So because we teach Kafka, kids will be turning into Cockroaches?
Can you not see how silly you sound, discipler? Your logic is insane.
- ********0
Yes. I can.
If people want to educate their children outwith the mainstream and have the ability to do so, who are we to take that away from them. We live in a "free" society. That should include religious and educational freedom.
- discipler0
no sir. There is an alternative to teaching children that they must step on the heads of their peers to get ahead in life. It is possible to instill absolute morals and at the same time, teach them what to expect in the real-world.
- discipler0
Education about the ideaologies of the world does not have to be an endorsement of them. I'm not advocating sheltering children from reality, I'm advocating giving them a responsible education about reality and the consequences of certain world views.
- ********0
It's not even close to being that simple bot.
skt
(Oct 13 05, 05:03)I think some one has to stand up and say what is right. And not be scared of being polictiacall un-correct
- fate_0
Skt, basically because that freedom leads to the destruction of other, more important freedoms. It's a "lesser of two evils" situation.
Right now because of it, we have a full-force of NeoCon Christians ruining this country.
- discipler0
bot, you don't see the logical extreme of your viewpoint. Where would the removal of rights stop?
- fate_0
Discipler, human reality is not absolute. In any way, shape, or form. "Absolute" is a dirty word that goes against all the facts.
- soda0
Soda did you watch the london news last night? This is not shit stiring this is just a comment about divided communities.
Look at all the shit you get from just having common sense
bot
(Oct 13 05, 05:02)bot, I grew up in those divided london communities you are talking about.
My niece and nephew are going to faith schools.
I went to a 'faith' school, I can tell you the good and bad about them all night and day and I have the right to do so. As do you.
I also have the right to choose where I send my kids and the type of education they get.
- fate_0
Oh god, here comes discipler with his "drawing the line".
Our rights are already being taken away by those who embrace religious rights to an extreme. We need to draw the line, else we become a theocracy.
- ********0
Yes. I can.
If people want to educate their children outwith the mainstream and have the ability to do so, who are we to take that away from them. We live in a "free" society. That should include religious and educational freedom.
skt
(Oct 13 05, 05:09)Another buzz word that means nothing. 'freedom'? Should people be free to give children Crack? Come on.
Lets send all of Children type A to a Type A school. We don't need those type Bs
- discipler0
fate, you miss the point. Morals only exist in the first place because of an objective standard with which to juxtapose.
- soda0
Another buzz word that means nothing. 'freedom'? Should people be free to give children Crack? Come on.
bot
(Oct 13 05, 05:13)jesus you are an idiot.
that's a great argument.
- fate_0
Seriously, now more than ever is a horrible time to argue the value of religion to society, when those that call themselves Religious are plundering this country and fracturing our nation and taking away IMPORTANT rights.
Not the right to believe in fairytales. The rights that give us the ability to even discuss these matters. These latter rights are being eroded. Wake up.
- ********0
What is the need for faith schools, apart from empty words like 'choice'
you are sounding very new labour
- discipler0
don't be silly. there will never be a theocracy in the US. And you can look at the progression of teen pregnancy, abortion, weapons in schools, suicides in relation to the blurring of moral standards in public school education. There's no secret about that.