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- tkmeister0
i will send him jpgs of my butt prints. they are pretty.
- tkmeister0
so i just got another call from him requesting the assets and images.
i don't wanna deal with all the drama and confrontation. what would be the best way to get out of it?
email him that i am not releasing them or not to respond on anything?
- ********0
tell him in a nice and long email why he wont get shit. written KJ style. that will shut him up
- mrdobolina0
I agree with designerror, more often that not.
- tkmeister0
should i send email to KJ so he can write it up for me?
- lnu0
Is he the kind of guy that would start a big legal process over this or would he just stay seated on his ass?
- Engage_London0
just prvide urls if you have them on your server...
- ********0
since the work was produced while you guys were partners, rather who did the design or not, it belongs ot both of u.
you need to have a contractual agreement that any payments that is made (pre-profit) via design must be shared with you. you should make an arrangement so that you can accurately track the cash coming in.
remember it preprofit, which means that what ever hard or soft costs that he will incure while producing this work.
or you can just sell him the design.
if it is a furniture or other physical ideas, than you should do the same as above but also have loyalty agreement.
- tfsmag0
sell it to him... then only send him super low-res copies :D
- tkmeister0
he has a few lawyer friends, so he can possibly start. but he has no base ground to argue on any contract or agreement.
he has no actually production skill. he can't do 3d. he can't use ps or illy that well. in our partnership, i pretty much dictated our creative direction and production. he had some saying to some materials but it was up to me to make the decisions.
if he was acting more as a creative director and i was his production bitch, then i would hand over. but in this case, it's very different.
- tkmeister0
dinky, you made a good point.
my main concern is that he won't be able to meet the kind of design standard i want to keep on his end. therefore it conflicts my interest and possibly damage the design.
and you all know how it is in the design world. copy righting is exremely hard. he can change one little thing and claim it it's all his original.
- mg330
Forget jpgs, save everything as web safe gifs and give those to him.
When he says "WHAT THE HELL IS WITH THE HORRIBLE QUALITY OF THESE!!!!!"
You just tell him, "It is what it is."
- fusionpixel0
If you guys didnt had a signed agreenment, you can do whatever you want. but if you both signed stating that any production belong to both of you, there is not much you can do. no matter how little and how much you worked.
- ********0
true enough
if the design was produced in partnership rather who did who, it doesnt matter. your interest on the product may lay differently but as long as you guys were partners 50% goes to him.
i say draft a contract regarding the design and place a loyalty on it. and you could do the same with the products / design. you could produce it on your own but you must give his share of the pot.
also he cant claim as his own, you have to put that in writing that you are co creator and must be recqecnized. if he does not do that than you have a ground for a law suit or cease and decease.
you could take him to court at this point saying that you feel that you are the originator of this design adn will refuse to release it. but as you know, that will costs you more (maybe) in its value.
- -sputnik-0
if you were partners, then it belongs to both. if he didn't design, what did he do? bring in clients? manage?
if so it is half and half. friends of mine went through this a while back...save yourself a fight.
- ********0
ah yes fusionpixel that is a way out but his partner can also go to court to fight to rights to the property aruging that he had property rights on it.
honestly, if it goes to court, when it comes to intellectual property suit, it really comes down to who has more money
- ********0
ah yes fusionpixel that is a way out but his partner can also go to court to fight to rights to the property aruging that he had property rights on it.
honestly, if it goes to court, when it comes to intellectual property suit, it really comes down to who has more money
- tkmeister0
i think he has no proof he did work on any of that design.
if he did, how come i have everything(all design comps, files, etc) and he has nothing?
he can smooth talk and make you believe, but wasn't good enough to get any substantial contact and deals with clients.
here's the usual schedule when we were working.
me: wake up at 8 and start working at 9.
him: walk in to my home studio at 11 or noon.
me: doing all 3d, 2d design, comps, creative direction, etc.
him: chat with his girlfriend online, surf around web, check some cool shit, tells me it's cool.
me: work after he leave so i can focus on production and make sure all the details are set.
him: leave the office around 6 after a day of doing nothing.
- -sputnik-0
i think you're totally missing the point. what was his role if you were partners?
if you are partners, i.e. a designer and a manager, you don't have to have your hands on each other's work (documents, media, whatever) to lay claim to them. that's the whole point of a partnership...each has his/her role.
