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- moldero1
- Taken out of contextyoungdesigner
- oh, so this is actually not fucked up in its correct context?monospaced
- moldero1
- http://www.buzzfeed.…moldero
- funny how this is the only one that isn't new testament.********
- well, other than the famine, cannibalism reference********
- ********1
- Saint Al the Weird?locustsloth
- lolmoldero
- that's one way to put hair on a statue.********
- youngdesigner1
- 'available everywhere books are sold' is quite a bold claim.detritus
- avoids main point.yurimon
- John Lennon?IRNlun6
- Does he like potatoes? cuz i like potatoes.pango
- The pope wears a hat? So did he.Miguex
- Yurimon. What is the point?pango
- Stain, Mao and Pol Pot were all vegetarians! That's why they committed their atrocities. Lack of protein!!!wagshaft
- Joey Tribiani?_niko
- LAME™ a Clearchannel subsidiary no doubt********
- yurimon-14
- "Living in a world of self delusional meaning". I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one. #yurimonbasedgod********
- - Values are make believe by definition.
- Are we not primates?******** - removing religion doesn't take morality away. atheists don't eat or kill their children.doesnotexist
- Is this primate talking to me?yurimon
- Therefore, Non Atheists:
- Not primates
- Values are NOT make belief
- I don't even know what the fuck the that means
- Feel great, at least smth in common!******** - Stop with your delusions PRIMATES!. you are just making it up as you go along.yurimon
- okay...monospaced
- 2 delusions doesnt make a reality. mkay.yurimon
- You've lost your touch yuri.
I am disappoint.******** - this speaks for itself. you live in a world of make believe. choose your pretend module. ic you have chosen atheism. have fun pretending.yurimon
- ummm... I feel like believing in Gods, angels, a heaven, afterlife, demons and miracles is more make believe, but anyway...monospaced
- you believe in magic green paper or numeric digits on a computer screen. dont you. a piece of pretended value to control your behavior. thats just as sillyyurimon
- so a paper with magic sigils on it is ok. sigh..yurimon
- lol, you're serious about this post, yuri?scarabin
- dude, dont start. ok your synapses are firing in you primate brain. you are an accident. we dont want accidental primates who are delusional in this debate.yurimon
- Well. Sure I believe paper money has value since we have a global system in place that it's a part of. We can't escape that reality by choice.monospaced
- That's a bit different than claiming to know the truth about our creator and the afterlife don't you think?monospaced
- Thats exactly what they said about the catholic church in the height of its power. you cant escape. so how is this belief different from any other belief.yurimon
- dont proclaim belief systems if you cant examine the falsities of your ownyurimon
- right...monospaced
- yupyurimon
- The difference is that religions systems have supernatural entities that are responsible for acts. Money, on the other hand, represents our own responsibility.monospaced
- both man-made, yes, both systems of control, yes, but one is a practical system of trade while the other is, practically, just a belief system.monospaced
- super natural entity called the state. where can i meet this entity called the state?yurimon
- are you suggesting you're not a primate, yuri?scarabin
- btw, you can contact your state here https://www.usa.gov/…scarabin
- i'm sure they'll get back to you faster than god willscarabin
- but i want to shake the hand of the state. I mean its been acting in my interest. so i was told it was real. just like pope it has an army and seems pope answeryurimon
- s to god a fictional entity thus the state must be real an exists in a more real way and less make belief than religion. however i have never met the state.yurimon
- somehow this invisible entity is making choices for me. how can it be its the same shit different slight of hand. to control you. n both systems have an elite.yurimon
- are you suggesting you're not a primate, yuri?scarabin
- the state is an organism made of thousands of individuals. it IS possible for you to shake hands with all of them, given enough time.scarabin
- i doubt you will ever shake the hand of god.scarabin
- how is not different then an imaginative religions organization still is a fiction.yurimon
- those organizations have peoples hands you can shake. religion had the power to kill you now the state has this power. same shit diff pretend.yurimon
- are you suggesting you're not a primate, yuri?scarabin
- stop avoiding this question. are you a primate or not?scarabin
- it's different because the state does not claim to answer to a fictional being.scarabin
- you guys claim you are dealing with something more tangible. a religious organization is tangible especially when it was in power n had n armyyurimon
- yuri, are you a primate?scarabin
- we ARE dealing with something more tangible. a group of people is tangible. catholicism is tangible. is the god it worships tangible? no.scarabin
- your metaphor doesn't work, move on already. now. why are you calling us primates like it's a bad thing? what do you think you are?scarabin
- Its not hard to see that even though the one premise is more acceptable to you its still the same control system with a few adjustments. still follows the sameyurimon
- underlying psychological mechanism that you would accuse religion but a more presentable sales pitch that most people seem to except.yurimon
- but arguably it can still be the exact same utter bullshit. you like an iphone, i like an andriod.yurimon
- "a few adjustments"? catholicism's MAIN thing is god. that's it's primary focus. that's not just a little adjustment. why are you avoiding the primate question?scarabin
- just fucking answer it already. what are you, yuri, if not a primate?scarabin
- obviously if the god thing wears off its going to be something else like democracy when there is non.yurimon
- but it hasn't. catholicism is still based on the concept of god. are you a primate, yuri?scarabin
- power ideology changes as the screwing over time becomes obvious and people are like oh this idea is better, we needs some change.. then buy the sales pitch.yurimon
- catholicism is still based on the concept of god. are you a primate, yuri?scarabin
- prim8syurimon
- that's cute. are you a primate, yuri?scarabin
- why are you calling us primates like you aren't one, yuri?scarabin
- what is it you think you are?scarabin
- why are you avoiding the question?scarabin
- you believe you are a prim8?yurimon
- is the whole focus of you're argument? avoid the core substance.yurimon
- we're addressed and exhausted your core substance already. you were there, remember? this is a side thing i'm curious about.scarabin
- so what's your answer? yuri == primate, or no?scarabin
- this is really a very simple question. i know you've got a couple brain cells left you can rub together to come up with something.scarabin
- are you afraid to admit that you know you are, in fact, a primate and you just got so emotional and self-righteous that you started spewing it like an insult?scarabin
- or do you believe you are not a primate but something superior, something other-human? in this case, please do elaborate.scarabin
- OR, is it that you don’t believe in natural selection and therefore disown the idea that we evolved from apes? in this cale, please tell us where we came from.scarabin
- Money and religion don't have the same psychological mechanism of control! If you don't have money, you can't buy shit. If you sin, you are punished by god.monospaced
- we're waiting, yuri. http://i.dailymail.c…scarabin
- One has actual repercussions, the other is a complete guess by anyone's account. Also, are you a primate, yuri?monospaced
- ic. I knew it was bait question. so you was hoping id answer so you can turn it into a superiority thing.yurimon
- yuri, you made it a "superiority thing" when you started calling us apes as though you were something besides an ape. at least have to balls to tell us why.scarabin
- so much for deb8s. I think religious people n atheists still follow the same archetype system.yurimon
- why did you do that, yuri?scarabin
- if you are going along pure scientific atheist lingo, then we are nothing more then accident of a mysterious nothing. so much for dealing in facts i guess.yurimon
- your argument fell right through to the ground. don't be so closed-minded. now, why did you call us primates, yuri?scarabin
- what if we are not going by scientific lingo? please tell us in your own words what you are if not a primate. and why you feel we are.scarabin
- mysterious nothing happens by accident, leading to prim8s that are no longer primitive cause we have iphones and our fictional entities are more real then oldyurimon
- fictional entities. we are better yes in some ways but can you understand that it all came out of the exact same ideas but differently worded.yurimon
- stop it with the 8 shit. you're not twelve and this isn't AOL. it's not helping you.scarabin
- facts point to that being the truthmonospaced
- qabalah 11-12 dimensions, quantum physics 11 dimensions.yurimon
- so you're saying you ARE a primate?scarabin
- you're saying that you believe everything we do but with different words?scarabin
- you got crazy vague there for a second like you were trying to avoid the question again or something.scarabin
- alot of concepts you claim is modern came out old mysticism, just sold bit different as power structure thought it was necessary. you still have religion thatyurimon
- where did we come from, yuri? are you a primate or not?scarabin
- i haven't claimed anything is modern. nobody here has. you're avoiding the question again.scarabin
- binds you hatheist. just different names fo things. but the archetypes are the same.yurimon
- so you're a primate?scarabin
- am i talking to a wall. why is this important to your argument based on all i saidyurimon
- i already told you, it's not part of any argument. your argument fell flat ages ago. i'm just curious about you.scarabin
- we all agree that old mysticisms were clumsy attempts at science, attempts to explain things. some came close to truth, others didn't.scarabin
- we refined the process and it became science. some of the old results bear a primitive resemblance to things we have since proven. so what?scarabin
- that is not true, maybe in the minds of hatheists it fell flat but anyone rational can understand that most people are bound by the same archetypes that driveyurimon
- their belief systems.yurimon
- that doesn't mean science is a belief system. that's like saying a chicken is an egg.scarabin
- you keep harping on this for some reason.scarabin
- my belief is not relevant here.yurimon
- of course it is. if you don't have any beliefs but continually insult us that means you're nothing but a troll. i would much rather believe you are a man whoscarabin
- makes these assertions based on passionate beliefs than that you’re just an asshole.scarabin
- if you're shitting on us for no reason at all you're just a dick. at least have the balls to share what you believe in so we can talk deb8 like adultsscarabin
- you call us primates as an insult, knowing full well you're a primate yourself. that's superficial assholism.scarabin
- you're hiding.scarabin
- throwing stones from behind a wallscarabin
- i ask why you think you're not a primate so i can fucking see you, you coward.scarabin
- Damn! I missed the train on this one. Too much to read now.pango
- basically, our beliefs are all wrong, but yuri's afraid to tell us his.scarabin
- thats has nothing to do with the main subject. its just a point of attack thats failed.yurimon
- we already addressed your main point ages ago.scarabin
- try to keep up.scarabin
- i dont think so. but keep making stuff up, puts you at par with other humans. just makin shit up.yurimon
- see you later mate. Going to the dunnyyurimon
- dude, you were there. you petered out and gave up. your metaphor didn't work.scarabin
- after the hand-shaking nonsense you failed to come up with a better point to make and we moved on to the primate thing. that was like 50 posts ago.scarabin
- scarabin you are so much like yuri it is comical. your hang up with him is very telling********
- have to disagree. Yurimon make no sense way more often than scarabin.pango
- we might be from the same Monad. quiet possible but he carries bit of darker energy.yurimon
- no pango. im sorry but you like scarabin better so he makes more sense to you.yurimon
- "Living in a world of self delusional meaning". I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one. #yurimonbasedgod
- yurimon-14
- More like people who don't love your favorite music and don't think your girlfriend is hotlocustsloth
- I think he is just stating in general of his observation that the people he observed are left brain imbalanced.yurimon
- ********0
So, does yurimon believe he is a primate or not?
- he's afraid to tell us.scarabin
- you should feel bad for being one, but not him.scarabin
- I didn't choose the primate life, the primate life chose me.********
- https://media.giphy.…yurimon
- Black and white.
Clear as crystal.********
- scarabin6
what i've been able to deduce about yuri's beliefs are as follows:
1. he believes that our creation was not an accident (because he uses the idea that we are "accidents" as an insult against us). this implies some kind of creator.
2. he believes he is not a primate (because he uses the fact that we consider ourselves primates as an insult against us). this implies that he either does not believe in natural selection or that he is otherwise some kind of superior being.
3. he believes only religion can provide relevant values. (he claims our “primate atheist” values are “make-believe”) which means anything you find meaningful in your life, any values or code of conduct not given to you by spiritual elders is “self-delusional” and wrong.
4. he is desperate to prove that religion is just as reliable a source of data as science (because of his numerous attempts to prove that science is no better than a belief system). after all, “qabalah 11-12 dimensions, quantum physics 11 dimensions”.
- not really, im not exactly for religion. just saying people have the same vices even when they believe different things like its the deal when its mostly allyurimon
- none of this is arguable, mate. it's all up there ^ just own your beliefs, jeez.scarabin
- bullshit. and yes everything came out religion alot of quantum physics borrowed from old mysticismyurimon
- there is a book i think i posted on here about history of concepts of space.. pretty good read. it shows the progression from religious thoughts. yes religionyurimon
- yes, some "mysticisms" were a larval stage of science. we already addressed that.scarabin
- not sure why you keep harping on that.scarabin
- was mathematical in some greek and prob Egyptian beliefs systems.yurimon
- cool beansscarabin
- i'm not using accident or primate as an insult. your reaction is psychological that you want to be more then this and it triggers a defense responseyurimon
- "Is this primate talking to me?
yurimon"scarabin - "Stop with your delusions PRIMATES!. you are just making it up as you go along.
yurimon"scarabin - <add to feed>********
- must have been imagining those posts.scarabin
- let us not forget this http://godawa.com/mo…scarabin
- and this " your synapses are firing in you primate brain. you are an accident. we dont want accidental primates who are delusional in this debate.
yurimon"scarabin - stop lying bro, and just own this shit. don't be a weiner.scarabin
- oh, that lol, I was being dramatic effect in reflecting hatheism. seems atheists do not like their reflection.yurimon
- "oh that, lol"
FUCKING LOLscarabin - fuckin' weiner.scarabin
- just own your shit, bro. stop being a coward.scarabin
- its not my fault you cant sense advance internet sarcasm or dramatic effects or reflections of ideals.yurimon
- you really think that wasnt sarcasm? i own the serious statements bro. in yo face.yurimon
- no, you're just a weasel. it's cool though dude, whatevs.scarabin
- the image post is a reflection of your beliefs? no? you think we are not primates? ya?yurimon
- *cough*
weiner
*cough*scarabin - yurimon, i just want you to know that i still love and accept you even though you're a weiner.scarabin
- let's be friends.scarabin
- avoiding core issues to end up with weiner as closer. thats mature debating right there.yurimon
- the debate ended about 100 posts ago when you failed to come up with any more points. god where have you beenscarabin
- let's just shake hands and move on. but wash yours first.scarabin
- i dont see that at all. you were on the primate shit then weiner. haha. nice try though. i was hoping for more but kinda disappointed. school yard shit.yurimon
- do you have any new points, weiner? you could have brought them up at any given moment but you didn't. which suggests it was over. that's kind of the definitionscarabin
- i see you don't want to be my friend. you're hurting my feelings.scarabin
- you never rebuked my points just go back and find the ones on same archetypes n get back to me you can tell which are points from the sarcasm. hola back.yurimon
- really, dude? i addressed that 4 posts later. try to keep up.scarabin
- listen, as much as i'd love to bicker all day with you, we're at a point of diminishing returns here. so unless you got something amazing you're holding back,scarabin
- i gotta jet.scarabin
- k, walk it off broh. night.yurimon
- didn't think so. see ya buddyscarabin
- So. Are you a part of the primate family or not yurimon?monospaced
- isnt that what you believe?yurimon
- Yes, but is it what YOU believe?monospaced
- something's gotta be off when you rub one the most open/chill person on qbn the wrong way. yuri really is a master troll.inteliboy
- I know. Who'd have thought that poking the wasps nest would lead to an angry wasp. Go figure.Morning_star
- Seriously guys, I love this bickering. Yuri, why do you respond to everyone assuming we never understand - like you're a god or something?Ianbolton
- Like I really appreciate everyone's opinion, but at no point do I assume everyone needs educating to my level.Ianbolton
- utopian1
- so the state is immoral..yurimon
- amen.scarabin
- so people killing in iraq is more even though they takin orders from the religion called the state.yurimon
- fear and trembling by kierkegaard examines this idea and is quite a good read. it's like 50 pages.sarahfailin
- ********0
it's cute.
- yurimon-1
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