print question?
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- airey0
never heard of 'colour break' but a low res proof (sometimes used is a blue proof - dye sub i think? can't remember) is usually for text flow, image dropouts etc. it's to make sure the content hasn't altered from your machine to theirs and is a fast way to go.
they should still supply you with a bloody correct proof though? these days it's all digital prints (whereas 7 years ago it was all chromalum film proofs which cost the earth). make sure you request a correct proof before approving it for print and do a press-check if possible - take someone experienced if you can to find out what to look for.
printers will fuck you. not intentionally, they just don't see it the same way we do.
- BonSeff0
ive never heard the term color break either. but if they are giving you a lo res proof, chances are they just want you to approve artwork placement and copy accuracy.
- airey0
thx bonseff, you've clarified what i wrote (i can't even understand my ramblings so i can't see how anyone else could) lol!
- piperboytoy0
thanks guys, now I know. There isn't a way for me to go do a press check because the printer is in another city (there is no good printer where I'm living right now).
why do you have to go for press check? if the proof is ok, then shouldn't the job be done per spec?
thanks
- BonSeff0
nah man, i thought you did a fine job. it's awesome to read the ramblings of an old school print head. i feel ya!
:D
- airey0
proof = printed job hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... ahh, phew.
nope, that should be the case but very often it aint. depends on who's on the press that day, whether the plates were outputted with an error (overprint can often balls up here), the weather - some presses are effected by changes in temp and moisture, is the printers floor wayy to dusty and there are hickies (dust settles on the plate and masks the ink creating colourless spots), the list goes on. welcome to the terrordome my friend.
- Gorbie0
press checks are more important on large runs, and multiple pages. but i'm anal and i'd never pass up the chance.
the color can shift slightly while on press... you can also make last minute adjustments while it's on the press. bump up certain colors and what not.
for emaple... you don't want to print 250,000 flyers and find out the press operators had the magenta way up and wasn't paying attention to your proofs.
- piperboytoy0
oh boy, I'm fucked. I talked to the printer on the phone this morning and she said that she and another account manager will do the press check for me. not sure if she was shitting me.
- swollenelbow0
color break, nope sir, never heard of it...but you guys are on the right track! =)
- piperboytoy0
thanks for clarifying. I'm only doing 150 wedding invites, so I guess it should be fine. right?
- Gorbie0
it may be okay piperboy...
i worked for a printer and a lot of clients didn't check it out on press. it's not uncommon at all.
- airey0
hey piperboy don't stress man. everyone esle goes through this and 99% of the time it's cool. if they balls it you just get them to reprint (this shouldnt be a problem. shouldnt i said...). it'll be fine, just don't worry and if anything goes wrong solve it when it happens. life is way to short to stress over it.
- BonSeff0
thats a small run, but just be sure the acct rep that will be at the press check knows exactly what the color should be like
(assuming she's arsed to check a 150 ct print run)
i think the press check is the most important step. i cant count how many moves ive made or how many plates ive had redone...
- Gorbie0
you're fine.
150 is nothing to sweat.
- piperboytoy0
thanks for all your great advice. I think this is a great learning curve for me. I shouldn't be stressed out but I'm going on vacation tomorrow, so i want to get everything approved first before I leave. also the wedding invite is for my friend, so I want it to be extra nice.
thanks airey, Bonseff, Gorbie and Swollenelbow. have a nice night guys.
- BonSeff0
i dont think 150 is less sweatable that 10000
shit, 150 of the 150 would be make ready's
is it an offset press or a digital press?
- Gorbie0
no problem.
enjoy your vaction.
- Gorbie0
sort of....
but if they botch something like that, then i'd make them eat that measly 150 and do it right.
if you trust them to check off on 10,000 and there's a problem - then you aren't going to get much cooperation.
- piperboytoy0
actually I don't know, it doesnt' say on the proof but you can see the design here.
www.piperboy.com/nancy_mike_inviā¦... 3mb file
- Gorbie0
it must be digital. I can't imagine 4 color offset for 150 unless they were grouping it together with somebody elses job - in which case you wouldn't get much say as far as a presscheck.