I've suddenly got no job!
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- GeorgiePorgie0
the fact that you have been made redundant has nothing to do with your skill set. Its probably a budgetary issue. now stop thinking negatively, drink a beer, relax and go find another job tomorrow
- paraselene0
that's the perfect attitude to have, wolfboy. you gotta start believing in pronoia and just get out there on the street and shake it.
- GeorgiePorgie0
ouch
- derek20050
undo undo is right on point.
- Wolfboy0
Well, that's that. I've accepted redundancy. I've told them I'm not happy with the package and they are going to see if I can have any more (but I'm not holding my breath - literally or metaphoricaly).
And do you know what, I feel quite good about it now, I'm loking forward to something new....
whatever that may be....
- paraselene0
good luck, wolfboy!
- Wolfboy0
cheers for that, useful info
- trevedda0
With regard to "hidden employment" in the UK the equivalent ruling is called IR35. It is the same as the dutch law effectively. If you work for one company on a regular basis, particularly if they were a previous employer you may be classed as an employee rather than a freelancer. It's a little complicated since it is also related to where you work, the hours you keep and the arrangement you have with regard to the work you do and when you do it. Getting another client is useful, BUT you can be classified as having TWO part time jobs for both companies. The ruling is very contentious since it is easier to run an effective freelance business with a few large clients rather than lots of small ones.
Things to avoid are working at the clients premises, using their equipment, keeping the same hours, being paid a regular or fixed amount each month rather than on a per job basis. Common sense view is that if you feel like an employee you probably are one. So if the contract they offer gives you T&C which are similar to your previous ones you will probably fall foul of IR35.
- Wolfboy0
well, it will probably be my last day in the office today, I have a meeting with HR and I think I'm gonna try and squeeze them for a bit more money and then take it and run.
wish me luck.
I think I'm on top of my portfolio - buit it's a bit rushed. I've applied for 10 jobs already and today is gonna be spent getting on the books at design reqruitment places, see if I can get a nice bit of high paying Freelance stuff.
Then I will get shit faced while watching the Zutons tonight.
- Wolfboy0
Yeah, I would have to agree with you there
- GeorgiePorgie0
Becoming redundant sucks, no matter what it is. sorry
- Wolfboy0
no freelance stuff at the moment, but plenty of contact names coming through this morning (first morning that I've let everyone know about it), so pretty hopefull I'll be able to get straight back to it.
handpicked is going pretty well, it's monthly and I run it with a mate of mine. we aim to put on three good bands every month and things are starting to grow. April 7th is next, details are up on the site. Then in May Xfm have noticed us and are getting involved, they are sending a DJ down and will be a big help with the promotion.
- CharlesChester0
I've suddenly got crabs.
- Chimp0
Shit dude, you got any freelance stuff to see u through?
hey whats that hand picked night like at the rocket? still havent manged to get along to that place yet.
- Chimp0
Shit dude, you got any freelance stuff to see u through?
hey whats that hand picked night like at the rocket? still havent manged to get along to that place yet.
- vburo0
yeah, true what rabattski said. they really made things complicated lately here.
- Wolfboy0
Chist, it sounds like a hassle to work in Holland!
- rabattski0
freelancing has a weird status in dutch taxes anyways.
- rabattski0
undo, i know it's harsh but hidden employment is very abuse sensitive. a company can save a lot of costs that way.
you say the outsourcing costs are more wolfboy but you're forgetting that a company has to pay social security etc.
for instance in holland, if you as a employee make 3K per month nett then the company actually pays rougly 9K. so if you outsource if for 6K you save 3K.
anyways, if it's really obvious they'll fuck you, if you have had various clients in the past and are working on one big ass job right now they won't cause any trouble.
again, that is holland.
- Wolfboy0
cheers Konspiracy, thats the way I'm trying to look at it. I'm giving my self till Monday to get my portfolio sorted and then I'm going to really look at whats out there. I've been in the industry 3 years now so i've got some experience.
things could definately be worse.