I've suddenly got no job!
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- Wolfboy
I've been made redundant from my job.
The money men at my (now ex) company decided that the budgets needed to be shuffled to make the books look better, the outcome of which is that the in-house design team has been culled there by saving the wage bill a few thousand but the work will more often than not be outsourced (costing the company shit loads more) and appear in the expenses budget.
Oh the crazzzeee world of big corporate business.
does anyone have the need of a designer with 2 years experience of working at a huge old company with massive clients like adidas, london 2012?
- soda0
shit, thats rough lad.
Their may be some work coming up here in a couple of months, I'll let you know...
- hiroshima0
oh i am so sorry to hear that Wolfboy. I hope that you are able to find work quickly. It sounds to me like you have good experience an will bounce back.
The good thing though, that now you can spend all your time on NT without fear of being fired!
bonne chance!
- UndoUndo0
start up yr own company. you gotta client their looking to outsource, they know you, you know them
puurfect :)
- lifeinbinary0
that sucks man. i hope you get a job soon. that's always the disadvantage of working for the man. but freelance has its own set of problems too.
and i suck at both.
- UndoUndo0
^ life is always greenwer on the otherside of the fence, no matter which side you are standing on
- Wolfboy0
Cheers guys, and the 'setting up my own company' to get the outsourcing work is already in motion. I think I could make a tidy bundle if I play it right.
- numberoneson0
Happened to a few of my friends too. Hard luck man, best of luck with starting up on your own.
- UndoUndo0
good luck dude.
- Wolfboy0
cheers, it'll only be a temporary thing if the outsourcing idea comes off because I know first hand how ruthless they can be.
- rabattski0
that sucks and good luck to you.
so they fired you and they outsource it to you? that's brilliant. you'll make way more money that way. but isn't that like hidden employment (dunno what you call it in english)? dunno what the rules are in england but for instance in holland, if you only have 1 client then you're considered employed and not freelancing. and if that's the case taxes will send a big nice fat invoice.
- UndoUndo0
fiken ell rabattski that sounds harsh. not sure if is the same here but if it is just get a couple of quick low cost jobs in?
- Wolfboy0
you may be right rabattski, I'll have to look into it, as I say, it's just my initial thoughts, as you say, it may well be illeagal.
so I will be looking for other stuff too.
- konspiracy0
know how u feel mate.
same was done to 7 of us at the now non-existant blackid.com.
came completely out of the blue (for us 7 anyway - ohbviously not the "moneymen")anyway, its the best kick in the ass i ever got. id been at the company two and a half years after comign fresh out of art college. i did learn a lot while i was there about the business and was lucky to be working with good designers and flash guys who i learnt a lot from too. i was getting too comfortable there i reckon.
sometimes a change is good.you'l be shitting yourself at the moment worrying where your next cheque will come from.
but if youve got a decent portfolio and stuff then you've no worries mate.
- Wolfboy0
cheers Konspiracy, thats the way I'm trying to look at it. I'm giving my self till Monday to get my portfolio sorted and then I'm going to really look at whats out there. I've been in the industry 3 years now so i've got some experience.
things could definately be worse.
- rabattski0
undo, i know it's harsh but hidden employment is very abuse sensitive. a company can save a lot of costs that way.
you say the outsourcing costs are more wolfboy but you're forgetting that a company has to pay social security etc.
for instance in holland, if you as a employee make 3K per month nett then the company actually pays rougly 9K. so if you outsource if for 6K you save 3K.
anyways, if it's really obvious they'll fuck you, if you have had various clients in the past and are working on one big ass job right now they won't cause any trouble.
again, that is holland.
- rabattski0
freelancing has a weird status in dutch taxes anyways.
- Wolfboy0
Chist, it sounds like a hassle to work in Holland!
- vburo0
yeah, true what rabattski said. they really made things complicated lately here.
- Chimp0
Shit dude, you got any freelance stuff to see u through?
hey whats that hand picked night like at the rocket? still havent manged to get along to that place yet.
- Chimp0
Shit dude, you got any freelance stuff to see u through?
hey whats that hand picked night like at the rocket? still havent manged to get along to that place yet.